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Mb217 Inner circle 9530 Posts 
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Your oppinions are not so humble JT
So when is Mickey competing and where? Thought it was around Turkey day. Again, a lot of conversation pro & con about this "tool" that goes far beyond your average hammer, I'd say. But JT, you know how most feel...how do you feel when Mickey's hands open and close, are you ahead of him or behind him? Does your evaluation come first or your enjoyment? 
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27300 Posts
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FWIW, I evaluated the situation early on, and kept my critical eyes off the moves and just enjoyed my time with him for lunch and over at the house.
My feeling is that his short one-coin-routine and this other effects register about the same for magicians and laymen. Which is a good thing. We don't get that kind of pleasant surprise too often. Though again, this has nothing to do with the retention he uses and much more to do with HOW he performs.
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vinsmagic Eternal Order sleeping with the fishes... 10959 Posts
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This is not the Mickey fan club ,it is about a retention vanish ..
I wrote a thread way back about jelaousy / envey The only one here disputing this fact is JT. this post is about a retention vanish not about a performance with coins.......... not about burning some ones hands but about a coin the really looks like it was out into a closed fist period.. |
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27300 Posts
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On 2003-09-03 09:51, Eirik wrote: Yes Eirik, for now David Roth's is about as good as available and he has discussed and taught the move on several videos over the years. While he does not give out those videos, they are still available from the publisher. At some point, there may be a release from a guy named Mickey Silver. His style is quite different from David Roth, and his sleights offer solutions to a couple of long standing problems (over fifty years) in advanced coin magic. Mickey does give out videos, but not teaching videos yet. If you want, send him a PM on the café and say hello and ask about his videos.
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Bill Wells Elite user Lexington, VA 457 Posts
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Clones? So that's why there are so many of him doing the SUV on the videos.
...and until now I thought an SUV was just a puffed up vehicle. ...even if he is sending in a clone to London, they should go see him. |
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swiftshifter New user Philippines 94 Posts
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Well, I do not handle coins at all. I do nothing else jjbut cards. How ever, as a bit of an easer afeter my presentation, I usually do a coin vanish and reproduction. The retention pass is the move that I use. I have long since dropped the French drop (pardon the pun).
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Hoggle New user 77 Posts
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I don't know much about Mickey Silver other than his an online demo. I will say what he's done at the end there is very nice. He can show you the coin is really in his hand then instantly its gone. nice.
As far as other retention of vision vanishes, Close-up Illusions has an excellent treatise on maximizing ROV in the classic french drop. Several variations are taught, then Gary reveals a combination of all of them that is outstanding. You see the steps he took to arrive at the new variation and that is almost as good as the vanish itself. Both CoinMagic and Expert Coin Magic have Roth's take on the illusive pass using ROV principle. These three books contain a wealth of information about making your retentions magical. Anyone else have any recommended readings? Ill bet Al Scheider has something on the ROV but I haven't read his stuff.
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27300 Posts
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How are people doing getting a burn on their Tourniquet vanish (French Drop)?
John Mueller at Tannen's commented that my Spider-grip vanish looked better than my French drop, and so I decided to investigate the move. Yes, you can get a burn from the move. Fred Kaps also showed a very nice drop vanish in his lecture and the film "Kaps on Coins". What have you found comparing the reactions/utility of a retention or not on this basic vanish?
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Werner G. Seitz Inner circle 3131 Posts
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Quote: Yes my friend..as you might know, I do have *Fred Kaps on coins*.
On 2004-11-18 11:14, Jonathan Townsend wrote: All I can say is, everything on that movie is accordingly to Fks motto :*It's so simple* and nevertheless very few can do it as well as he did.. Everything on this movie is done sooo well ! Just take his production of coins behind/from a playing card...it's so easy, nevertheless so difficult
How about the thread thing for CTTT and a lot of other stuff..his coinbox move..one can go on and on.. Nobody can do it as well as he could..the simple things... This goes for *Fred Kaps on cards* too.. What about his handling of Paul le Pauls spreadpass? His special delivery palm... The old Prof. Lewis palm (IIRC)..anything!!!
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fengenroll Loyal user NYC 226 Posts
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Sorry to interrupt a thread about a theme I know nothing about, but is there a Demo somewhere that shows this Retention Pass?
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27300 Posts
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Yes, Mickey's move is on the French site. and some of us have the 20 meg and 5 meg files. IF you can handle file transfer, that is another way. Asking Mickey to send you a DVD is yet another way.
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Eirik Special user Oslo 879 Posts
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On 2004-11-17 13:59, Jonathan Townsend wrote: Thank you Jonathan, I know some of the works David Roth put out, and I do like his style. I'v very curious about Mr. Mickey Silver, I'v only read about him till now, so I hope to see some of his work real soon. Is he a working professional BTW? -e-
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27300 Posts
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On 2004-11-19 07:52, Eirik wrote: Yes, Mickey is proud to say he's been self employed since he was 16. He emailed a couple of days ago about his trip to England. If you can attend, please do meet him.
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Eirik Special user Oslo 879 Posts
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On 2004-11-17 13:59, Jonathan Townsend wrote: Thanks for the update Jonathan, I'v followed this thread for some time now, and I have been curious about Mr. Silvers work, lucky for me he sent me a PM last friday, offering me his Performance DVD, I could'nt belive how friendly this guy was. I'm really looking forward to witness his SUV. -e-
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fengenroll Loyal user NYC 226 Posts
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Does Mickey Silver have a web site or a demo on the internet showing this appilcation to the retention pass?
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Malcolm Kavalsky Regular user 114 Posts
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On 2004-11-18 18:30, Jonathan Townsend wrote: Please post the URL ... |
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Dougini Inner circle The Beautiful State Of Maine 7130 Posts
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Well, since no one's responded, (and I can't find the French site) there's always Mickey Silver's OWN site! here ya go!
http://mickeysilver.tripod.com/html/main.html Best, Doug |
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27300 Posts
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Use the search function on the Café menu.
When you find the link, you will need to remember the French term for 'French Drop' and make a login there, which is free.
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fengenroll Loyal user NYC 226 Posts
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Thanks for the link Dougini, Mr.Silver seems like a great coin magician. Can't wail to see a DVD.
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MSD921 Special user 616 Posts
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I have Mr. Silver's demo DVD and have watched it MANY times. It is a joy to see. I like his approach and he is obviously very talented. I'll be early in line to buy his first DVD....I just visited his website. I understand business, sponsors, etc BUT.....am I the only one that gets heartburn seeing that one of his main links(of four) is a website selling the book "Magic Secrets Revealed"? This appears to be one of those publications that prides itself on revealing everything possible to anyone with a few bucks to buy their book. What do you think?
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