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Billy Andrew
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I've been working on a routine that includes elastic bands to make the cards do new and interesting things. Jay Sankey's "Don't Feed The Animals" falls into this catagory but I'm at a loss about one of the controls he decribes.

The reference is to Frank Simon's Versatile outjog control which is found in one of Frank's books (Versatile Card Magic). This control leaves an indifferent card out jogged with the selection on the bottom of the pack.

I don't have many books at the moment and my next couple of purchases were going to be Card College III & IV. Does this control appear in any of these volumes? Are there any other sources I might get a similar control?

Without the cover of the outjog for a subsequent bottom steal the effect is weakened and will probably not make it into the routine.

Many thanks in advance for your help.

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Do you know the Convincing Control by Marlo? They are very similar and this would work for the routine. Both the Marlo and Simon techniques are taught on Daryl EoCS vol 4.

Another alternative, if you know it, is to use the Kelly/Ovette bottom placement. When in position to do the move you can glide the real card to the right, using the left fingers to contact the next card up. This indifferent card can then be outjogged as the selected card is transported to the bottom. Was that clear enough?

Either of these 2 alternatives can be used in exactly the same situation and will leave you in the correct place to do your bottom steal.
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Take a look at Marlo's Convincing Control from Hierophant/Legendary Hierophant as this has kind of become known as the grand daddy of all such techniques. Granted, it wasn't the first, but it has set a trend for such moves. Ackerman has some work on it, as does Ernest Earick, and my current personal favourite is my friend's Mark Aspiazu's from his one man EGO issue. Also be sure to check out Immediate Bottom Placement by Larry Jennings as some say that Marlo stole his handling from Jennings (although I'm not sure myself).

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Sorry. You had more depth in yours though!
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Thanks guys I'll see if I can hunt down these sources.
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Another source for the same control - with some additional helpful handling - is Gary Oullet's "Close-Up Illusions" (wherein he credits Marlo for "inventing" the control).

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Those books will be hard to find, but there is an Excellent description in "Jennings '67" under the title "Immediate Bottom Placement".

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Actually, it wasn't too tough. It took me a whole 20 seconds to find Ouellet's "Close-Up Illusions" ($36.00) at the H&R website:

http://www.magicbookshop.com

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Just a quick message to thank those that replied.

Also to mention that the convincing control can be found in Card College III which I recently bought.
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