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BrianMillerMagic Inner circle CT 2050 Posts 
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SECOND VIDEO REVIEW
Okay, just received and watched the very short second "training" video from Benji. This video deals with choosing the right restaurant. Okay, I'm confused. The first video was about how to brand yourself properly while doing restaurant work. The second video is about choosing the right restaurant. Doesn't it seem like choosing a restaurant comes before branding in it? Why are these in reverse order? More importantly, neither video provides any advice whatsoever about how to get hired as a restaurant performer. Both of these videos assume you know how to do that, which means the target audience implied by "paid to perform", once again, is missed completely. Furthermore, again, anyone who knows how to get work in restaurants will gain nothing from this video. The advice is trivial and transparent to anyone who already performs in restaurants. Like so many other have said, and I now have to agree after only two videos, Benji needs to define his target audience more carefully, and then provide advice that makes sense. This is a mess of information that isn't helpful to the apparent target audience (those looking to get paid to perform), and trivial to the rest of us. |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21242 Posts
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The problem with selling the sizzle and not the steak, is simply that once they order the steak and try to eat it they will be disapointed if it is not any good. When this happens you end up with unhappy customers who will not return.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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Mindpro Eternal Order 10602 Posts
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This was my point from early on. Even his own disciples are beginning to turn against him. Not good for any guru.
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Kevin Ridgeway V.I.P. Indianapolis, IN & Phoenix, AZ 1832 Posts
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The self evidence has begun. Who wants some cupcakes?
Living Illusions
Ridgeway & Johnson Entertainment Inc Kevin Ridgeway & Kristen Johnson aka Lady Houdini The World's Premier Female Escape Artist www.LadyHoudini.com www.livingillusions.com |
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Mindpro Eternal Order 10602 Posts
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Benji would stand a much better chance for success if he listened to the many here who have offered input, rather than trying to ignore them and becoming defensive.
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BrianMillerMagic Inner circle CT 2050 Posts
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He has disciples? I was away for a while until this thread I saw yesterday - did I miss something?
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Ray Pierce Inner circle Los Angeles, CA 2604 Posts
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On 2011-10-08 23:35, tacrowl wrote: I totally agree, Tom. As I mentioned above the "value" of this information will become very clear in time, which to me is zero. That's not to say that there might not be a market for the repackaged basics he is offering. As others have mentioned his market seems to be ill-defined. Most of what we're seeing tends to fall under the category of what I would call freshman mistakes that I'm sure we all made when we were starting. The difference is that when we were all starting most of us tried not to pass off that level of knowledge as something worthy of anyone else's time or attention. Confidence and bravado are certainly valuable when there is something to back it up. I just haven't necessarily seen that here.
Ray Pierce
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Mindpro Eternal Order 10602 Posts
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On 2011-10-09 12:26, BrianMillerMagic wrote: Nothing here, just keep moving on. What I find strange and nobody seems to be addressing this, is if he's trying to position himself as a corporate specialist (and high-end events?) why is his material about restaurants? I guess maybe 'charming" starts on the restaurant level, and them somehow jumps right into the corporate level. I'll be waiting for that video. |
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Close.Up.Dave Inner circle Behind you! 2956 Posts
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On 2011-10-09 13:06, Mindpro wrote: From what I understand, Benji says that restaurants are a sort of "transition" to higher paying gigs. Personally, I know many corporate guys who do restaurants because they help book other gigs, and they are a steady source of income. One is not a step for the other, they simply work to accomplish different but necessary things. I don't mean to keep pounding on Benji like this, because I still think its good that he's trying things. But there is definitely something wrong when a marketing expert has trouble marketing a free marketing course. |
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Mindpro Eternal Order 10602 Posts
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Perhaps part of the problem here is that many are magicians thinking from a magician's perspective. Benji claims to be a mentalist. Without getting into a big hijacked discussion between the different approaches and perspectives between the two, there is a difference. Few corporate mentalists I know also do restaurant work or have used restaurant as a stepping stone to get there.
Even if this is the case there's a huge step between the two and the target that would benefit from this material are no where near ready for that. Benji barely appears ready for that himself by what he's said and shown recently. I guess through none of it matters "as long as he trying things." It's okay to rob a bank, too bad they got caught, but at least they tried. Trying is admirable perhaps when it comes to trying to progress your performing skills, but I don't believe so when trying to position yourself as a guru, offering advice to others from some point of authority. |
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BrianMillerMagic Inner circle CT 2050 Posts
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On 2011-10-09 14:32, Mindpro wrote: Totally an inexact parallel. Benji is not scamming anyone out of money or forcing his course upon anyone. If the day comes that he starts charging those who don't know better for his course, and his course is patently bad, then I'll agree with you (and I'm sure that day is coming). But as it is, this is simply free information. |
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Close.Up.Dave Inner circle Behind you! 2956 Posts
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On 2011-10-09 14:32, Mindpro wrote: Hey man, robbing a bank is on my bucket list. I don't need you squashing my dreams 
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21242 Posts
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On 2011-10-09 19:49, BrianMillerMagic wrote: He does not charge no, but he DOES encourage "those who do not know better" to lie, cheat and otherwise milsead a client. This is harmful behavior even if it is 'free' don't you think?
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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BrianMillerMagic Inner circle CT 2050 Posts
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On 2011-10-09 20:54, Dannydoyle wrote: Fair enough, I'll give you that. |
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Close.Up.Dave Inner circle Behind you! 2956 Posts
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I hate when Danny is right lol
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Mindpro Eternal Order 10602 Posts
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On 2011-10-09 20:54, Dannydoyle wrote:
[/quote] He does not charge no, but he DOES encourage "those who do not know better" to lie, cheat and otherwise milsead a client. This is harmful behavior even if it is 'free' don't you think? [/quote] This is my exact point. Knowing this is what he has admittedly done, there are still those here that say "well at least he's doing it." This is just crazy condoning this approach and mentality, and then support him teaching and advising others? I just don't get it. |
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TomBoleware Inner circle Hattiesburg, Ms 3171 Posts
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Oh I agree, we better stop this little Benji fellow from giving away free videos as fast as we can.
He may ruin the magic business for everybody. Have all the magicians lying and cheating. Please I beg you, don't listen to his video and let him warp your mind. If you listen to him now, one day he will be asking you for $19.95 and your life will be ruined. Turn your head and don't even look at this link: http://www.paidtoperform.com There, now ya'll can't say I didn't do my part too. I hope that helps. Tom
The Daycare Magician Book
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tacrowl Inner circle Maryland 1633 Posts
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On 2011-10-09 23:43, TomBoleware wrote: Only for the ones that are just starting, naive and take his "bad" advice Tom. I'm not saying everything he offers is bad. The problem is he has re-wrapped some outdated techniques that didn't work that well when they were introduced, and offered them up as business advice. You've been around long enough to know that creating fake quotes and trying to build relationships through lies doesn't work. Someone else may think that's how its done and suffer for the results. We can't stop him - and I don't really care to. In fact, even this thread discussion won't help because it will be buried in a month or two and Benji will still be collecting names so he can eventually sell his course and consultations. Anyone who digs deep can read about his past offerings and make a decision that way. For those that don't, they'll be just as successful as Benji - if they can become a guru. The other Tom |
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Oscar999 Elite user 401 Posts
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So Benji has made the conscious decision to separate himself - steppng out in front of the pack. I say BRAVO.
Don't let the negativity get to you Benji, a sure sign you're doing something right is that others who aren't called to lead are sitting back taking their pot-shots. Comes with the territory. Best of luck to you, Oscar |
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BrianMillerMagic Inner circle CT 2050 Posts
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On 2011-10-10 11:03, Oscar999 wrote:a sure sign you're doing something right is that others who aren't called to lead are sitting back taking their pot-shots. Excuse me, Oscar. Many of us posting in this thread are full time professionals, some with 20+ years of experience in the entertainment business (Danny, Toms, etc). These are not people who "aren't called to lead" that are commenting. I make my entire living as a full time entertainer, and I'm here with so many others telling Benji that he needs to reformulate if he wants this marketing guru business to actually help people. |
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