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Tukaram
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I would not wory too much about handing every trick out for inspection. Most people assume all tricks are done by magnets/smoke/mirrors ha ha (not really, but you know...) If you give them a good enough show they don't seem to ask to see the props.

I keep wanting to buy this rope but just cannot justify the expense, as a hobbyist. I have seen them here in the Philippines for $20. But I know that would not be worth buying! So it is better to do without it ofr now. Lots of Chinese magic for sale here...
ppw
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Is Michael J Fitch's "Not Walking Knot" DVD available from any dealer in the USA or Canada?
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On Mar 19, 2015, ppw wrote:
Is Michael J Fitch's "Not Walking Knot" DVD available from any dealer in the USA or Canada?


I would be interested too...thanks.

I am looking for Pavel's Walking Knot and Krazy Knot...thanks.
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On Mar 4, 2015, Tukaram wrote:
I would not wory too much about handing every trick out for inspection. Most people assume all tricks are done by magnets/smoke/mirrors ha ha (not really, but you know...) If you give them a good enough show they don't seem to ask to see the props.

I keep wanting to buy this rope but just cannot justify the expense, as a hobbyist. I have seen them here in the Philippines for $20. But I know that would not be worth buying! So it is better to do without it ofr now. Lots of Chinese magic for sale here...


The price is what it is, not because they do not want you to buy it, it is because of the high quality of assembly that goes into making it. If you worked for many hours to manufacturer something, you think they should sell it at a loss, and not be paid for their work.

As you say, you are only a hobbyist, then this trick is not for you. Even though it is simple construction that takes hours to make, it is not easily performed by a hobbyist. And if you are still at the stage where people are asking you to see all your props, then this is definitely not for you.

I cannot advise you whether to buy Chines Magic or not, my experience is that most of it is inferior, but if you can't justify even $20, then stick to magic found in books and magazines.

Did you know there is a free monthly magazine called, Vanish that describes a lot of tricks for free each month, plus stories, and how to perform, etc. Look it up, it is free to download. You will have enough card tricks to keep you busy.
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It seems that Vanish Apple friendly. I have a PC and not a MAC and I am having trouble downloading this. I don't want to use it on a smart phone or iPad. I like to do things on my desktop computer. It says free, but then they say you have to pay. I don't think they know what free means.
Bill Hegbli
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Mtpascoe, they have several version or formats, I think you chose the wrong click button or issue. On the welcome page, click on the words "Click here to download free". On the next page, just click on the button "Download". It will start downloading and a message bar at the bottom of IE will ask you to open or save. Click save, or right click and chose Save As, and then move it to the desktop or any folder you desire.

I use Windows 7 and have been downloading it since the beginning. You can only download the current month's magazine. All others have to be purchased. So every two months or every other month you have to download your copy.

Here is the download page for desktops, just click on the word download with the orange arrow. Currently this is number 19, April/May 2015 Vanish Magazine.

https://www.hightail.com/download/UlRReUNFMVhsMHdpR01UQw
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Thank you Bill, that worked. I tried to start from the beginning and download the first issue, but as you said, you can only download the current issue.
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One last note as to the price of Pavel's effect; I did build one, partially because of cost and because I wanted a specific color. If I ever need to replace it, I will buy one! Hours and hours of work!
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Tukaram
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On Apr 14, 2015, Bill Hegbli wrote:
..... I cannot advise you whether to buy Chines Magic or not, my experience is that most of it is inferior, but if you can't justify even $20, then stick to magic found in books and magazines.

Did you know there is a free monthly magazine called, Vanish that describes a lot of tricks for free each month, plus stories, and how to perform, etc. Look it up, it is free to download. You will have enough card tricks to keep you busy.


I can easily justify $20 - but I know a $20 walking knot would not be worth buying ha ha. But I will be checking out the Vanish magazine. Smile
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I once saw the French magician Dani Lary on Italian television doing a jacket switch of the Super Walking Knot while walking back to the stage after having the rope examined by spectators.

I thought it was a great solution in this context.
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I'm just responding to the comments about how tossing out the rope could result in a break in the momentum of the act...

In general I agree. However, it really depends on what you do and how you do it. Many years ago I did a cut and restored rope where I cut the rope, tied the knot, passed it over a candle, and the knot burst into flames. Then it popped off the rope.

It got a lot of applause, but then I walked towards the audience and tossed the rope out. As soon as it landed, the applause picked up again, which gave me a moment to walk back and start the next part of the act. There was no break in the momentum. One thing just led to the next.

Granted, it took a while to get the timing right, but once I did, it worked fine. I just really think it's all in how you do it.
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YUP! That's EXACTLY what my mentors taught me when I was a teenager!

"It aint WHAT ya do. It's HOW ya do it!"



P.S. About 20 + years ago, in his lecture at ABBOTT'S "GTG", John CORNELIUS, showed an IMPROMPTU METHOD. It wasn't EXACTLY the Pavel EFFECT, but, it looked great.

I showed it to the late Earl WILCOX, and, he put it in his act, the next day!

It can be done with the rope(s) you use for the Professor's Nightmare!
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Hi,I need instructions if anybody can help me, please!
I need to work smooth with buttons...
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