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KyleMacNeill Inner circle 2757 Posts |
Hey guys,
Just got an email about this: http://www.full52.com/boxflip.htm Sounds great - what do you guys think? Any reviews? Kyle |
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John C Eternal Order I THINK therefore I wrote 12938 Posts |
He's good. I am looking at nevermore.
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Glenn Watson Special user 781 Posts |
Why didn't he show the effect? He talked about it , showed parts of it but did not do the effect from start to finish. Not a way to make a sale to me.
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Harrismatic Elite user Greece 434 Posts |
From what I saw I believe the video contains the full effect splited in parts.
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Glenn Watson Special user 781 Posts |
Exactly ,split in parts you can make an elephant appear, change your clothes or suddenly go from Paris to New York.You do not see the effect when it is split into parts.
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Jeremie Leroi Regular user Paris, France 116 Posts |
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On 2011-10-13 14:26, Glenn Watson wrote: Hi, Dave obviously doesn't want to expose the secret behind this trick. Which I suppose could easily be guessed by the keen observer with a magical background watching a performance multiple times in front of a camera. You just have to trust him on this and Dave has a bulletproof reputation as someone who delivers what he promises. J. |
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Glenn Watson Special user 781 Posts |
If you don't want to show the effect why make a video. It serves no purpose. I am not commenting on the inventor or the trick but the video.
Sankey is very good but has produced some clunkers.So trusting someones past performance is not always the best path.I pay for effects not peoples reputations. I agree with the original poster it SOUNDS GREAT.Magic is usually about how it looks, I have no idea how it looks. |
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jimesw Special user 675 Posts |
If I set up a facebook group "magic shops can only sell items which have a demonstration of the full uncut effect without all the jazzy stuff, special effects and people cheering like they have just seen a miracle even though they know full well it is just a double lift" will people join?
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King14 Loyal user 268 Posts |
You need a demo from start to finish before you spend ure cash.More one trick rubbish
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brehaut Inner circle kentucky 2531 Posts |
If someone does not make a demo or does not show the effect, that is their decision. Whether you buy it or not is your decision. Complaining about the lack of demo is not helpful. I respect the creators decision. Even when a demo is shown then people will complain that it was edited, used dupes, etc.
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Glenn Watson Special user 781 Posts |
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On 2011-10-13 15:12, brehaut wrote: How is no true demo helpful.Why not just go with a written description.I can read and have seen brick walls before. |
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Harrismatic Elite user Greece 434 Posts |
Some things while work in real life situations can not be shown totally filmed either because they end quite boring (speaking and speaking and speaking) (videos do not have the personal touch that keeps you in the game) either because from camera's point of view we will have an exposure.
the moments you will give to your spectator are shown at the video. In other words videos are from a spectator's point of view and not a magician's one. of course this does not mean that they can show fake scenes or hide basic parts. As mentioned a double lift can be the basic secret of an effect but not at all the important part of its presentation for a spectator.(at least in most cases) This is at least my opinion. It is true that the scenes are quite quick so maybe this is a reason you can not get an idea on how it looks. |
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Glenn Watson Special user 781 Posts |
I guess my question is ,if you can't show the effect because the secret could be discovered,Why make the video? An attempt to be artsy with the brick wall and close ups was made. but my reason to watch an advertising video of an effect is to see the effect. If it cannot be shown for the reason stated, Put out a "print" ad with endorsements from well known people and call it a day. My problem is not with just this ad but with all the many ads like it.
They have something visual to sell.they use a visual advertisement, They don't show you the visual thing they are trying to sell. That IS NOT HELPFUL. Why not just put out an audio description and an audio of the performance with a great a reaction ? It would be like old time radio you can use your imagination.no magician needed. It would give me no less information. if you receieve an email saying ,I have a trick . I cannot show it because the secret might be discovered. Now watch the video. Would you watch it? Maybe you would . I would not. There would be no point to it, and to not state that just wastes my time and their effort. |
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brehaut Inner circle kentucky 2531 Posts |
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On 2011-10-13 15:37, Glenn Watson wrote: Its fine for you to have that opinion but not sure what your point is. Forrest is the creator. He can decide whether he wants to do a demo or not. He can decide whether to do a video rather than a written description. He has a good reputation and people will buy it on that. If you need to have a demo to buy---thats your choice. The tradeoff is that you will surely miss out on some great effects but that is your choice. I can say that most my strongest effects were purchased without a demo. |
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james_thecanadian_magician Veteran user 330 Posts |
I know I'm buying it !!!!
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KyleMacNeill Inner circle 2757 Posts |
Just bought it - downloading!
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John C Eternal Order I THINK therefore I wrote 12938 Posts |
Buy, don't buy. our choice. Dave is a great thinker. If you've ever purchased any of his stuff you will not question the value on future releases.
J |
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brehaut Inner circle kentucky 2531 Posts |
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On 2011-10-13 16:09, KyleMacNeill wrote: Look forward to hearing your thoughts |
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Liam Montier Loyal user 297 Posts |
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On 2011-10-13 16:14, johncesta wrote: Totally agreed. For me, Dave's material is a must, it's always great. If he informs me of a new product by uncut demo, teaser trailer or carrier pigeon, I want in! |
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King14 Loyal user 268 Posts |
You can see a full demo if you wear a blindfold.when you buy the trick don't show it to anyone tell them about it.IF they want to see a demo make them use the blindfold.Now that's magic.
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