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Dbzkid999
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Hello,
I've had some situations where when I'm double lifting, people say "Hey! I saw you lift two!" or "Hey! there's another card there!" or something.

I was wondering what you would do if THEY saw you DB?

Thx
Nash
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lol.. well.
you shouldn't get caught DLing.
but every now and then, here comes these pain in the @@@ who knows a little bit about magic and double lift, he'll stop you in the middle of the show and tell people "THERE ARE TWO CARDS" (even though you are really turning over one card).

so solution N>1 : put up your right hand and smack the silly XXX out of him.

N.2- do a KM move, to show that it really is a single card and make fun of him in front of everybody "hahah, loser... what? double what? hhemm who's talking now?"

N.3- do whatever N.2 tells you to do except the "let's make fun of the spectator" part.
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Micheal Leath
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I would suggest that you work on it a little more. From your other post, I take it that you have not been doing magic all that long. These things will not come overnight. Practice on your own, then show family and close friends. When you are able to consistantly fool them, then try performing for others. Hope this helps.

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Welshwizard
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Tell them to **** off and that they aren't smart just because they have seen some magic exposure show. Oh and change methods and use the DL much less as well.
Euan
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Out of interest. What double lift method are you using?

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danny
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I would opt for the "lets make fun out of the spectator approach". Smile
Pete Biro
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NO NO NO>>> it is the technique... I had done the Ambitious Card for a world class racing driver as my main subject.

All went well, or so I thought.

Later he said, "I can't figure out one thing. How did you make that card change thickness from time to time?"

Well, you see, top racers have eyes like Eagles... they can see better than most human beings.

So, from that time on I NEVER hold two as one, with and edge showing, hold the angle so they don't see the edge or hold it so your finger covers the edge.

You need to realize what it looks like from the speckies point of view and work on the technique to make it work.

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Dbzkid999
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I do the double lift like David Blaine, and even if I do the lift well, i hear other people whispering "There's 2 cards there....." or somthing. Smile
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I RARELY take a double OFF OF the deck. If i dl, it's always just a quick turnover onto the deck...once it's turned face up on the deck there is a naturalness to the turning them back face down again due to the back to back condition of the double and the rest of the deck. This way you really CAN'T get caught.

Another thought, you may be bringing way too much attention to the cards trying to make them look NOT suspicious when in actuality all you are doing is arousing suspicion. Be a bit more nonchalante(spelling?) Anyway, best of luck to you and PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE.
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Supposing you have practiced, and in the event murphies law crept up on you, and you sliped that DL, just try to play it of phrases like " oops, I turned 2 over by mistake" usually works for me when I do the ambitious card.
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Dbzkid999, isn't the DL Blaine uses by Derek Dingle? It's a hit DL, as in no get ready. Pretty advanced and not my favorite. I'd say learn an easier one, like Lorayne's, then work your way up (personally I use Vernon's). But practice practice practice, the reason you're getting caught is because your technique isn't good enough. This isn't an insult (we've all been there) but work on it. Since I don't know what it looks like when you do it, I can't tell you how to improve, but try this age old method- turn a single card over on top of the deck without even thinking about it. Now practice so that your DL looks exactly like that.
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First off, listen to Nash and smack the *******. Then turn to him/her real cooly and say something like "is anyone listening, or who cares" and just pretend like you know more than he does, and if you have to, switch methods. A good alternative is to work from the bottom using the glide, if necessary.
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If you need an immediate out, just tell them that it is an old deck and the cards stick together from time to time. Or do as suggested and do a KM move to clean up. Either way, don't let it ruin the show.

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SimonP
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When I first started magic I had exactly the same problem, people would occasionally say "Hey you've got two cards there!", now I only let this happen a few times before I decided something had to be done. The only advice I can give you, is to practise, practise, practise, practise. I started to practise the strike double, and now I have the strike solid I feel at ease with the double. A common mistake a lot of people make when turning over a double is making it look like a move and putting way too much heat on it. Just choose a good method such as the Strike Double, which can be learnt in Ed Marlo's Revolutionary Card Technique, or the Push off Double-which can be learnt in Expert Card Technique, or another popular double is Dai Vernons, anyway, you get the idea, choose one method which suits you, and then practise practise until it feels perfectly natural. Now then, when using it in performace, you need audience management. A double lift is a move where the audience should be able to look at the deck when it occurs, the secret to not getting 'caught' is to be relaxed and put no heat on it, therefore it doesn't look like a move, it just looks like you're casually turning over the top card. If you're relaxed doing a move, then your audience will also be relaxed, and they shouldn't even be suspecting that you're doing a sleight of hand when turning over the 'top card'.

Hope I've been of help Smile
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I regret to say that I don't appreciate the tone of a few of the posts. I imagine some people are trying to say things tongue in cheek, but it is coming across far too mean spirited.

People are always going to try and figure things out. It is our nature. It is also why we like to astounded or puzzled. Everyone assumes there is a "trick" unless you are doing something connected with psychic or occult powers and the other person is a believer.

So, if they are using their brains, they will try to deconstruct it. Half the time, their response isn't that they know it. They are guessing. "You have a invisible pocket in your hand. It is skin coloured isn't it?"

Watch their reactions. If they notice the DL, use an out like crazyhands or Xander DraX suggested. Keep control of your presentation and smoothly go on to another effect.

One out - hand them one of the two cards and say

"Here I didn't want this."

Do another effect with the one card in your hand. There are many many lost and retrieved card effects.

While you are doing it, work the "matched card" to the one in his hand to the top of the deck. (For matched card I mean the complimentary one. Someone please give me the correct term. If the 4 of diamonds is in his hand, I want the 4 of hearts. Matched card rank, matched colour.) When you have finished the retrieval. Show the retrieved card. Then move into this...

Bungle a second DL, so that you have the card compliment and another card.

"Wow these cards are sticky. Look I don't need this one either."

Hand him the complement.

"Look at that. Now you have a matched pair."

Stare at your deck puzzled.

"How did that happen?"

And then move onto something else. Practise that DL though.
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If you are caught often, your technique needs more entrainment and maybe it is better to stop performing it until you will have the precision needed, 'cause if you are got, it's over. I know that it is a sad thing, because the double allows miracles, but it must be perfect. Anyway, this will always, occasionally, happen. In this case, maybe the best thing is what Giobbi suggests, that is saying, oops, excuse me, I picked two cards, and find an out. In fact, the trick is yet ruined and at least you avoid to expose the technique. Keep also in mind that, if your double is caught once, for the rest of your routine the audience will watch carefully how many cards you pick.
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mooooomba
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BTW, that's called a soul mate I think.

I think the problem is not in the technique, but the fact that many people know that there is a move called the DL and they can (and will) watch out for it... Like the stripper or Svengali deck, but even more known to lay people is the DL... for me, the spectators are nice enough not to shout out the DL but I know that they do know I'm performing a DL, and their amazement level drops. Smile
marko
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where do you live, mooooomba? I have NEVER come across a layman who knew what a double-lift was, let alone the technical name for it.
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On 2003-09-05 20:52, Dbzkid999 wrote:
I do the double lift like David Blaine, and even if I do the lift well, I hear other people whispering "There's 2 cards there....." or somthing. Smile


The first time I saw David Blaine I said, "He's lifing 2 cards".... Try doing it like yourself. Smile
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On 2003-09-06 09:32, marko wrote:
I have NEVER come across a layman who knew what a double-lift was, let alone the technical name for it.

Agree ten times over. If your audience is picking up on your double lift then either your technique or presentation need work. I'll admit that laymen occasionally know about a TT, Svengali or Stripper deck but not a DL.

For those interested- Before I start my stand-up show I will state, "There may be a few of you that may have dabbled in magic; however, if you're aware of how a trick is done or you think you may know, please keep it to yourself so that others may enjoy the show, Thank You". I can honestly say that I've never had anyone in 30+ years blurt out the secret during a stand-up show after I've made that statement.

Top of the day,
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