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El_Lamo Special user Canada 589 Posts |
Michaels,
What a great opener! Thank you.
Life is a system of circumstance presented coincidently in an illusory way.
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Sagethegrumpyowl New user S Wales UK 16 Posts |
I use the pinky count and then twirl the double between my thumb and middle finger with my index finger, the double is always in motion, and instead of placing them on the deck I just let 'em drop back on, this looks like there cannot possibly be two cards as your not holding them as there made of something fragile, after a lot of practice when you literally throw the double back on the deck they will always be aligned...
Is all that we see or seem but a dream within a dream?
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korttihai_82 Inner circle Finland 1880 Posts |
Here is a hot tip if you turn the card face up and think that you might have been caught turning over two cards instead of one. Return the double face up on the deck. Lift of just the single card and show it and at the same time turn your wrist toward yourself killing the another face up card on the top of the deck. Just return the single on the deck without exposing the other face up card and turn it back face down.
Altought d-lift, if done well, can be burned, I still prefer to use misdirection when i turn over the card. People must see the turning over but they must not burn your hands then. Actually no move should´t be used without any cover. Also on d-lift while we are on the subject. People use double lifts for wrong reasons and way too much! I have seen countles people just to do double to show that the card is not on top! Or they just do d-lift and show that the card is not on top and turn it face down and put it onto spectators hand, where it turn immediately to selection. When spectator start to think about it the only possible explanation is that you switched the card, and when they thing about the moment they think about the time you did your double. Bang, you are caught! You won´t hear this from many magicians but LAYMEN CAN THINK!!!!! |
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Mike Walton Special user Chicago 984 Posts |
I have a couple tips as I've experienced the same results from my old biddle style double. I know, I know. It's not the best method which is why I bought, viewed, researched DLs to find the method I wanted to learn as opposed to the method that was the easiest to learn.
The DL really is an advanced move in my opinion and it takes days/weeks of practice before one can start catching on. I've been working on the strike double for weeks and just now am starting to get the feel of the deck in my hand and on my finger. You'll start to figure out what to do to improve your odds of hitting your double perfectingly such as ways to better hold the deck or square the deck before you do your double. So to answer the original question, what do you do in such a situation? Nothing, but prevent the situation from occuring again by making sure your DL is rock solid going forward even if it means you skip your DL tricks for weeks or months. There are some amazing self working tricks to hold you through this period. Learn the glide and check out Design for Laughter in Royal Road. You get a very similar result in terms of the purpose of the move, and a very strong reaction. It's a great trick. Good luck, Mike |
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Steven Leung Inner circle found the Magic Rainbow after 1614 Posts |
I suggest that we should construct our routine to a level that spectators do not know when it is a DL. For last move before the end of such routine, use a DL to raise the climax to maximum level will be our job to accomplish.
Do not give up, I told Café member several times I got caught to use DL when I perform Ambitious Card to a eleven year old kid when I started magic about 3 months (that's about 2 years.) Last Saturday, I performed the same routine, but this time a group of six adult. No one get a clue. So, practice paid my reward. So do yours.
Most memorable moment - with Maestro Juan Tamariz & Consuelo Lorgia in FISM Busan 2018.
"Being fooled by a trick doesn't always mean they are having a good time" - Homer Liwag https://hhpresents.com/ https://www.glitchstudiohk.com/ |
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ftlum Special user Roseville, CA 730 Posts |
One of the times my friend got caught-- it was because of the way he let the card turn over. His DL was a little "heavy handed" in that he actively turned the card down, rather than letting gravity do the trick. It looked too much like a move that way.
One other thing you could do is add a little misdirection. Look at the spectator's face and ask them a question. The spectator should look up, and you can finish your DL in that time. -- Frank |
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Christopher Williams Inner circle Portsmouth, UK 4464 Posts |
I love the double lift, and 1 way you can cover up is Daryls way. Thumb count 1 card, then reach for it, as your hand covers the card, thumb count another card. Pull them out straight and slow, not quick cos they have a tendency to come apart then. If you do it quick, the spectator will get a little bit suspicious! However, if you do the thunmb count to help with your double lift, you should use it to get singles aswell
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Eddy Special user Manchester 582 Posts |
Tell him to shut up, and do the KM move.
La magie, c'est ma vie
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ChessMess Veteran user 311 Posts |
KM move?? Umm for the uninitiated that stands for?
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Jonatan B Veteran user Gothenburg, Sweden 342 Posts |
You can also do a double from the face (bottom) of the deck and roll it over face down on the back of the deck (top).
Jonatan Bank
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bekralik Inner circle Canada 1357 Posts |
KM move allows you to change a double to a single. Stands for Tony Kardyo and Ed Marlo; probably more sources, but it's in Card College vol 3.
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Jack Veteran user 371 Posts |
For a while I used a double-backed card, which was sandwitched between the two main cards. Yes, it mean't doing a triple lift and/or turnover, but I've never been caught doing it and it's nice to be able to lift off a single card anytime should the need arise.
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ursusminor Elite user Norway 443 Posts |
I suppose we have all been caught "in the act" with a double, but for me it's quite a few years back, thank god! (But I still remember the feeling...)
The KM-move is a great out, as has been said earlier. It has also been said that the DL is the most overused sleight these days, and I suppose David Blaine is not going to stop that... I have used an ambitious card routine with a D/B card (The Trick That Fooled Houdini), combined with Ti**. It seems to fry magicians over here... There aren't too many cardmen in the Magic Circle of Norway. I'm currently working on a variant on The Trick That Fooled Houdini, using a borrowed deck (and an "impromptu D/B-card"). It involves triples of course, but you can show the card cleanly and singly after every phase. Not anything I would do for laypersons though. Bjørn
"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them
pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing happened." - Winston Churchill" |
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salsa_dancer Inner circle 1935 Posts |
I like the method of reversing the top card and placing the spec's card face up onto it. Turn both over and off you go. This often gets the response from 'clever' spectators that there had to be 2 cards but I couldn't see how.
I like the opener of telling them not to say anything at the start if they have some magical experince. I am going to use that. |
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Logan Five Inner circle Northern California 1434 Posts |
I had the same problem when I first learned the DL. Then I came across "Finger on the Card" by Gary Ouellet some 15 years ago. His DL is deceptive. If you can find it, get it. I don't think I've been nailed using it. Pete Biro has great advise. Speaking about getting nailed on any trick (it's happened to all of us) just say, "I am sorry. Let me show you something else," and move on to your next effect. Ignore it and move on. The audience will go with you on this if you don't beat yourself up in front of them.
Think about this: would a real wonder worker do a disclaimer before his performance just in case someone in the audience knows a few tricks?? Do you think a Martin Nash or Darwin Ortiz would be worried that someone in the audience knows what a 2nd deal is ? Burger or McBride or someone smarter than me once said "Our job as magicians is to take the audience on a ride, and show them another world where the unreal becomes real." They know we can't do real magic, but I think they expect our best. And that's what we should give them - our best, not a disclaimer.
Self concept is destiny..
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askcody New user Irvine, CA 4 Posts |
I had one question related to this topic. Sometimes people try to figure out what could have happened, so they take the next card, thinking the only possible explanation was that I turned over two cards as one. They didn't see the move, they just figured that was what had to happen. How many of you do a one-handed cut as you're doing the reveal of the change, or whatever the effect is? I've found it keeps me clean and makes the trick look even more amazing, especially for those people who take nothing at face value. Is there any other way to keep yourself clean after the trick?
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DarkSmaug New user 66 Posts |
If you just need to SHOW the 2 cards (not completely lift them off and use them as one card) do this:
Hold the deck in the left hand like you would if you were dealing. Grasp the two cards by the thumb (on the side near you where you have the little finger break) and the middle finger (on the far side). Life it about 1 1/2 to 2 inches off the deck. Use you left thumb to press down on the left side of the double cards, and spin it up to show the face. Repeat this to turn it down. You shouldn't do this too fast, but never let the side be exposed by moving it too slow. |
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Jonatan B Veteran user Gothenburg, Sweden 342 Posts |
I don't have any recommendation on what technique you should use. In fact, I am using a double that fits my personal style that I came up with.
Some pointers when you have chosen a double lift: 1. Never hesitate to turn over the double; would you do that with a single? 2. Use a get-ready that won't be seen with proper misdirection, or use a double without a get-ready. 3. Don't give too much attention to the showing/turnover of the double. Just do it without speaking in unneccessary forms.
Jonatan Bank
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jasonchr Regular user North Carolina 173 Posts |
You might want to check out Whit Haydn's double lift subtlety in his Chicago Suprise manuscript. It's a powerful convincer that can be added to any double lift technique.
Jason
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Craig Chamberlain New user Michigan, USA 49 Posts |
I can't remember who it was, and it wasn't while doing a double lift, but one time I was watching a seasoned performer working for lay people and he flashed a card or something. He said, "I'm sorry, I didn't do that very well, did I" and moved right along.
I thought the psychology was very interesting. For the spectator who noticed the flash, the magician didn't even give him time to interrupt but instead acknowledged the flub. By apologizing and putting the blame on himself, the magician avoided getting into a defensive situation, and took all the "fight" out of the spectator, who probably wasn't expecting the magician to be honest with him this way. And by otherwise not missing a beat and continuing with strong, practiced material, instead of dwelling on the mistake, I bet the spectator soon forgot all about it. |
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