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The Deep? The Abyss?

No no. The "deepest" movie ever made is Blade Runner. I honestly believe I could get three or four philosophy lectures from that movie. Maybe a whole course.

Anything else come to mind?
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Those two movies where folks took fancy drill vehicles down to the core of the earth, one with nukes?

Or perhaps the Hitchhiker's Guide where they take a tour of the planet under construction?
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Given one of your interests, The Crow?

Also, since this is a magic site, The Illusionist.


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Enjoyed Blade Runner quite a bit. It has a very different "feel" than the PKD novel. I think "Les Enfants du Paradis" is also very rich, quite a bit in there for people who are interested in performing arts in particular.
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On 2011-10-23 17:19, stoneunhinged wrote:
The Deep? The Abyss?

No no. The "deepest" movie ever made is Blade Runner. I honestly believe I could get three or four philosophy lectures from that movie. Maybe a whole course.

Anything else come to mind?


The Island. Strongly recommended to you, if you haven't watched it. It takes less time to watch than it takes to read Bloom's Shakespeare book. Smile
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On 2011-10-23 17:27, bblumen wrote:
Given one of your interests, The Crow?

Also, since this is a magic site, The Illusionist.


Brian


The Illusionist, really?
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Videodrome.
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Videodrome.


"My father has not engaged in conversation for at least twenty years. The monologue is his preferred mode of discourse."

I love Cronenberg.

Dead Ringers is up there too:"I've often thought that there should be beauty contests for the insides of bodies."

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How about "The Player" as conversation starter? Even the first shot should be good for a few lectures.
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As far as movies overtly about stage magic go, I thought The Prestige was deeper than The Illusionist, but The Illusionist does have a "happy" ending and Jessica Biel.
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Slingblade.
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Being John Malkovich

And I gotta tell ya Stoney. I'd LOVE to sit in on a philosophy lecture of yours using Blade Runner as the basis.

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Is this testing whether we're nerds or just whether we can imagine StoneUnhinged dressed in that outfit?
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I would go with Unforgiven. The deep version of Huck Finn has not been made, but that would be great, especially on the question of the teleological suspension of the ethical--when Huck decides to go to hell rather than do the "right thing" and turn Jim in.
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John Ford's The Searchers. When it came out the critics just didn't understand the complex issues going on in that film. Now they do.
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On 2011-10-23 21:56, Pop Haydn wrote:
I would go with Unforgiven. The deep version of Huck Finn has not been made, but that would be great, especially on the question of the teleological suspension of the ethical--when Huck decides to go to hell rather than do the "right thing" and turn Jim in.


SLING BLADE SPOILER BELOW

Two good calls, and I think the Huck Finn comment echoes the suggestion for Sling Blade, when Carl decides to return to his own hell by doing the "wrong" thing and saving the Wheatleys (by killing Doyle). It also challenges our sense of binaries and "knowledge" (particularly moral knowledge) when we spend the first 95% of the movie pondering the false dichotomy - is Carl cured, and therefore will not kill again; or is he insane, and therefore will kill again? The realization that he could be perfectly sane, and choose to commit murder, fully aware of the implications, including his loss of freedom as a sacrifice for his friend, is the ultimate sucker punch.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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Like Whit's Huck Finn, I don't think it's been made yet, but Frankenstein would be another.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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On 2011-10-23 22:51, LobowolfXXX wrote:
Like Whit's Huck Finn, I don't think it's been made yet, but Frankenstein would be another.


Bride of Frankenstein is my all time favorite movie.
And I do think it was pretty deep, but with a sense of humor that kept it from being overbearing.
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Joseph Losey's and Harold Pinter's The Servant with Dirk Bogarde.

At least I thought so when I was a kid.
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On 2011-10-23 21:56, Pop Haydn wrote:
I would go with Unforgiven.


True, that. I got obsessed with that movie once. Watched it about 20 times in two weeks.
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