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On 2011-10-25 22:25, gdw wrote:
Crony capitalism IS essentially national socialism/ fascism. Or maybe it's sort of the inverse, where the corporations control the economy/production via the government. Either way it is only enabled by the government.

No crony capitalism is a key element of fascism, though not fascism in its entirety. Agreed that it has to do with private corporations controlling the mechanism of government. Again, the Occupiers have been sending out that message for the last month. That has nothing to do with socialism.
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For the record, my "Agreed " comment above was to gdw's statement, not Woland's which immediately preceded mine.
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On 2011-10-26 06:59, landmark wrote:
You don't think that the rulers of capitalist countries enjoy luxuries undreamed of by the working man?

Call me one country that had actual capitalism and not just crony capitalism and we'll see.
It's amazing, people will criticize you for "biting the hand that feeds you," while they're busy praising the hand that beats them.

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No, landmark, the "rulers" of a country with a free market economy do not enjoy special privileges and luxuries (unlike a socialist nomenklatura) unless they actually produce economic value. People who make extraordinary contributions to the economy reap extraordinary rewards, and that is part of what motivates people to take risks and go beyond the ordinary.
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What countries in particular are you referring to, Woland and gdw?
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With respect to what?
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Magnus, maybe the Canadians should wait even a little longer before buying down here:

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There is only one notable data point in ......e sales, which, and this should not come as a surprise to anyone, continue to crawl along the floor with just 313,000 houses sold. The datapoint is the median home price, which tumbled from $210,900 to $204,400. This is certainly the lowest number in 2011, and is just modestly off the decade low record in October 2010. And it gets worse: the 3 month drop in median home prices is the biggest ever.


I don't know about you, but I'm hoping for a change . . .
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Housing prices are funny things. High prices make entry difficult and selling lucrative. But since you have to live somewhere, you have to leave the market to enjoy it. Or, as is most often the case, die and let your heirs enjoy the high selling price.

Balducci and I happen to live in a province basically untouched by the current economic crisis. There are still more jobs available than there are people to fill them. But there are more families than there are houses, so we have high employment but high housing costs. How come things are never JUST RIGHT?

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Well, Goldilocks found out that when things seem to be "just right," they usually aren't.
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On 2011-10-26 06:59, landmark wrote:
You don't think that the rulers of capitalist countries enjoy luxuries undreamed of by the working man?

Call me one country that had actual capitalism and not just crony capitalism and we'll see.


*call* should have been *show*

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What countries in particular are you referring to, Woland and gdw?


Actually, I was asking what "capitalist" countries YOU were referring to.
It's amazing, people will criticize you for "biting the hand that feeds you," while they're busy praising the hand that beats them.

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On 2011-10-26 09:39, Woland wrote:
No, landmark, the "rulers" of a country with a free market economy do not enjoy special privileges and luxuries (unlike a socialist nomenklatura) unless they actually produce economic value. People who make extraordinary contributions to the economy reap extraordinary rewards, and that is part of what motivates people to take risks and go beyond the ordinary.

Oh...like televangelists!
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