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Sean, yes it is.

Just with a cooler name.
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On 2011-11-23 00:26, saysold1 wrote:
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On 2011-11-22 10:35, john-pears wrote:
My opinion : I tried to make it work and no good conclusions honestly. I don't know why but the impression isn't working for me. I stick with other methods.
PROS: A "new" way to obtain an impression
CONS: Gimmicked marker, you cant give away the billet, you finish with a dirty hand.


Marker isn't gimmicked per se - you just can't use all markers.


Gimmick: a. A device employed to cheat, deceive, or trick.
It´s a normal Sharpie ? No

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On 2011-11-22 20:04, john-pears wrote:
Also José you have to admit that the teaser is misleading and you just cant gesture with your left hand as in the video. Sorry but I trust in your effect but I stick with the classics. Good luck with your other releases.
It's not misleading in the least. Of course you can gesture with your left hand exactly as in the video. That's not when the 'work' occurs. It just puts you in position for the move.


Really? Check the teaser again GeneTony.He opens the hand,but you cant do that on performance.
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Jose I just sent you a PM. Might want to look into it.
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You can open the hand in performance.

John, please STOP you are now exposing methods!
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The original Duplo is finally available here: http://mindshocks.com/products/duplo-by-jose-prager
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Besides the drawing dupe, what other effects are on the DVD?
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It is not a DVD, it is an instructional video avaliable as download.

Besides the drawing dup, you can use this method to reveal names,numbers or whatever is on the piece of paper.
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Didn't you put out this concept on a DVD under a different name? What effects on it?
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The DVD was made by a big company, but unfortunatly they did not provided my handling!
My handling is what makes this VERY deceptive even for the experienced mentalist.
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Guys, I am infuriated by this thread. Here's my opinion, and it's one that will be paraphrased in my Genii review column:

Duplo, by Jose Prager, is one of the best mentalism methods out there - period.

Jose explains the effect well on his video download. However, some people just don't get it. They think they understand the secret of it - but they don't. They think they know better than Jose, but they don't.

A deal was struck and a DVD (not called "Duplo") was released that supposedly explains Duplo - but it does not explain it. The person presenting the effect on the DVD either did not fully grasp why Jose's method is as good as it is or simply thought he had a better idea, I honestly don't know - but he made it horrible. Others on this thread have made suggestions that would similarly ruin the effect.

I do not know Jose. I have never met Jose. But I suggest you buy this effect from Jose, and do what he suggests you do.

Here's a link:

Jose's Trick: Duplo
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The person presenting the effect on the DVD either did not fully grasp why Jose's method is as good as it is or simply thought he had a better idea, I honestly don't know - but he made it horrible. Others on this thread have made suggestions that would similarly ruin the effect.

I do not know Jose. I have never met Jose. But I suggest you buy this effect from Jose, and do what he suggests you do.

Here's a link:

Jose's Trick: Duplo


I have been contacted by the presenter who informed me that he performed the effect exactly as it was taught to him (not by Jose), so I simply do not know who dropped the ball here. I apologize for stating that the presenter did not get the strength of the method - that statement assumed he saw Jose's method, and I should not have assumed anything. It happened because things said on the DVD led me to believe that Jose's method had been evaluated and discarded. What I do know is Jose was done a disservice. I imagine blame will be passed around on this, and for my part I don't want to compound any errors. The important thing is that Jose's real method is available, and that those who choose to purchase it may do so.
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On 2012-05-08 09:06, David Regal wrote:
Duplo, by Jose Prager, is one of the best mentalism methods out there - period.


That means a lot coming from you.
Thank you for your support.
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You can watch exactly how the effect looks from a spectator's POV at the trailer located here: http://mindshocks.com/products/duplo-by-jose-prager
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ANOTHER reason people love and respect David regal is is honesty and integrity!
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I love David Regal. He is probably my favorite magician to watch and learn from. However I disagree with him on this one.

Where are you supposed to perform this? Table hopping, walk around, formal show? I don't think so. Unless you are going to "clean up" in front of your spectators or carry something extra to "clean up" with you are not going to perform this. I know I won't be. I have to agree with David Penn on this one, you end up too dirty.

Clever is great, but only if it is something you can actually use in an actual performance.
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I perform it in all kinds of enviroments.
The clean-up is a so easy!
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David and Craig reviewed Sync not Duplo.

I want to make that clear.
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I don't own Sync or Duplo, so I can't compare the methods and gimmicks from one product to the other -- but this seems to be an extreme example of the problems that can arise when a creator lets another magician do the teaching on a DVD of his creation. If the information in this thread is correct, then Sync isn't taught on the DVD by its creator...and even the magician who did the teaching (I know, I know, awesome) was taught the method by someone who is also not its creator. It's like the "telephone game," where the original message gets mangled as it goes from person to person -- except, in this case, buyers of Sync end up being taught a method that the creator feels is inferior, and they have to go straight to the creator and buy a product with a different name in order to get the creator's intended method.

Seems like this sort of problem could be avoided by having the creator himself teach an effect's method -- or, at the very least, making sure whoever presents the method on the DVD has learned it directly from the creator. Anything else seems inexplicably sloppy.
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On 2012-05-16 17:51, FrenchDrop wrote:
I don't own Sync or Duplo, so I can't compare the methods and gimmicks from one product to the other -- but this seems to be an extreme example of the problems that can arise when a creator lets another magician do the teaching on a DVD of his creation. If the information in this thread is correct, then Sync isn't taught on the DVD by its creator...and even the magician who did the teaching (I know, I know, awesome) was taught the method by someone who is also not its creator. It's like the "telephone game," where the original message gets mangled as it goes from person to person -- except, in this case, buyers of Sync end up being taught a method that the creator feels is inferior, and they have to go straight to the creator and buy a product with a different name in order to get the creator's intended method.

Seems like this sort of problem could be avoided by having the creator himself teach an effect's method -- or, at the very least, making sure whoever presents the method on the DVD has learned it directly from the creator. Anything else seems inexplicably sloppy.


I AGREE!!!!
JM
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On 2012-05-16 11:16, J.Prager wrote:
I perform it in all kinds of enviroments.
The clean-up is a so easy!


Yeah that doesn't answer any of my concerns. Saying you perform this in all kinds of environments doesn't help me or the rest of us that placed this in the junk drawer. How do you perform this in all kinds of environments in a sanitary way without carrying extra stuff? How do you clean up in a sanitary way that is easy and doesn't require you to carry extra stuff? I believe the answer is you cannot. Professionals don't want to load down their pockets with extra stuff for one effect.

Obviously I am dissatisfied with my purchase but I haven't seen a PM offering a refund. Why is that?
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