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Burt Yaroch
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I have been working on this move for awhile now and I have Dan Sylvesters video on the
"Pitch" but am just having a hard time making the move look natural.

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Does anybody use the inertia pass or is there something easier that accomplishes the same thing I could be working on?
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Dorian Rhodell
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Here’s an honest to god real tip to use. Practice blindfolded. I know it’s weird but if you want it to seem effortless, then you shouldn’t even need your eyes when performing the pitch.



Danny taught me the pitch a long time ago and I literally use it everyday. Also it helps to follow through like a tennis swing and not stop as soon as your hand lets go of the coin.



Good luck

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Tom Wolf
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Hi Dorian,



What a wonderful tip to share with someone who is just learning a new sleight!



I used to practice my sleight of hand with the lights off.



This meant that I had to turn them back on and try and find out where my coins landed on the floor.



With your idea, just close your eyes. he.he. Smile
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Burt Yaroch
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So you're saying I should just use the force. Smile
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Tom Cutts
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No, just sit down and let it pass Smile
Chad Sanborn
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I can do the ’inertia pass’. but it does feel awkward. I have another move that will do the same thing. And it looks just the same.
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Raymond Singson
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I also really enjoy this move, and I try to utilize it as much as I can. It's a useful sleight to know whenever you have some spare change on you, and someone unexpectedly asks to perform something for them.

I already own the Sylvester video as well as Gregory Wilson's On the Spot. They both explain the sleight very nicely, but I can't seem to find enough confidence in the secretly pitched coin. I practice in front of a camcorder and in front of the mirror all the time, but I always manage to see the secret coin-- or load. When I perform the move for different people, they don't openly catch me out on anything, but I'm never really sure if they saw something I didn't want them to. Is there any way to hide the pitch a bit more? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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The angle is important (catching hand facing spectator). But if you own the pitch video you already know that.

If you perform the version where you throw the coin while pitching the other, I guarantee they will see nothing. However, that version (particularly the way Wilson performs it) looks a little awkward. RT, if you've put your time in and you do the move well, I'd trust they aren't seeing any coins flying. The best way to know is to simply ask a friend if he saw you do anything funny.

With Sylvester's routine, I find the hardest part is the retention vanish while getting the coins (particularly quarters) in and out of Down's. Unfortunately that move, IMO, really allows you to get way ahead and is the key to getting the most mileage out of the basic pitch. In my case, any suggestions for the retention vanish/downs (or version two) would be greatly appreciated.
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Lonnie Dilan
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I used to feel like people would see the coin when it's pitched, but they really can't... there is just to much going on when the person is just focused on the one coin that they are supposed to see. They Just see the open coin or ring or key or whatever.... just keep doing it and you will see it's slick and smooth man.

As for the move feeling awkward... well the naturalness just comes with time. I was turned onto the pitch by Dorian about 7 years ago and I have been using it ever since. I'm working on pitching jumbo coins now... and that is freaky, but people never see anything (until I drop that mother)

we all mess up. Just keep at it.

I work in an office and I practice the pitch using white out bottles and pens. I use the pen as the open tossing item and the white out is hidden... just fun to do... a great way to get over your fear of pitching the hidden item is to pitch some really bright things.. or maybe a pool ball or something.. just do it till your not scared anymore.

Thanks for turning me onto this super tool Dorian.

You didn't teach it to me, but you did talk me into going out and getting the video... and look at me now!!!

don't forget to practice with things of different weights too... like a penny and a deck, you get the idea...
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I've noticed how Greg Wilson performs the Inertia Pass differently than Dan Sylvester. Instead of doing the move in the angle of which Dan Sylvester actually teaches, Wilson performs it with his body squarely facing the audience, and they don't seem to catch him out on anything--neither does the video camera. I found this really odd, because his pitching technique looks a bit more natural in my opinion, and I was wondering how the secret load is still kept invisible? I've watched it over a hundred times, and no matter how I try to duplicate his actions, my pitch just doesn't look as good as his.

Any tips? I like performing Toll Free if you have the On the Spot tapes. I've performed at the angle Sylvester recommends, but I've always wanted to give Greg Wilson's approach a try. I just wanted to know if there are any subtleties before I go out and attempt it.

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Daniel Meadows
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I can do the "Inertia pass" both ways using the technique from "On the Spot". My question is, is this the same technique as used by Dan Sylvester on his video? If it is I can't really see how using decks or jumbos would be deceptive. (It says on the Sylvester video that other objects can be used)
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Lonnie Dilan
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Just try it out Neil. You have to experiment with your angles a little bit, but it works man.
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But when the cardbox (for example) lands into my hand (it is the item that I am hiding) I have to catch it claw style and it is clearly visible. Would the Sylvester video be a worthy purchase to overcome this problem or should I just practice some more?
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I have only seen the version that Greg Wilson teaches and have successfully done it with coins, lighters, watches, and weirdest of all TOMATOES.

I find that if you are pitching from left to right, then keep the spec to your right side and as you pitch, pivot your hips slightly to the left, (like a Karate man does when throwing a punch, but not so obvious) this tends to lend to the illusion and even makes it look fairer!?

Also I say keep him to your right, but it also works face on with him slightly to your right, for left handers just reverse everything. Try it and see.

ps if you can't pivot your hips for some reason then just step one foot backwards,
as this has the same effect.
Lonnie Dilan
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Yes Neil,

Pick up the video!!! it's worth it.. cool tips on the vid.
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