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Sariel Loyal user 258 Posts |
Anybody have some reviews on this book?
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Nir Dahan Inner circle Munich, Germany 1390 Posts |
I tried it and didn't like it.
I still go with the Lee Earle version from his video. |
dAvId tOnG Regular user sInGaPoRe 103 Posts |
Osterlind's version will also be included in his new Mind Mysteries DVD from L&L Publishing.
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Turk Inner circle Portland, OR 3546 Posts |
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On 2003-09-06 17:47, Nir Dahan wrote: Nir, What is the name of Lee's CT and what video is it on? BTW, without revealing the method, can you elaborate on why you preferred the Earle CT over the Osterlind CT? Thanks for the info. Mike
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rgranville Elite user Boston area 463 Posts |
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What is the name of Lee's CT and what video is it on? The name of the video is Lee Earle's Center Tear Teach-In. On the video, the CT is simply called "Lee Earle's Center Tear." |
Ben721 Veteran user 314 Posts |
I just came home from a convention, and saw Richard's lecture. His center tear was good to me, and flew right by all of us. But I also didn't know of any cneter tears prior to this one.
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Jim Sisti V.I.P. Connecticut 457 Posts |
I'm not sure what Center Tear Mr. Dahan is referring to but he's not talking about Richard Osterlind's Perfected Center Tear, explained in his newest book (which also happens to be the topic of this thread).
The book was just released last week and I recently sent out all of the back orders personally - Mr. Dahan was not one of the purchasers. Thus, I'm not sure how he can intelligently comment on it. It's possible that he's offering his opinion on Richard's Slow-Motion Surrounded Center Tear. However, Richard has ten years of work on his center tear method since the publication of that book and the new one, "The Perfected Center Tear," is the result. It's now available from dealers or direcly from Richard's website - http://www.osterlindmysteries.com. Incidentally, the "Lee Earle Center Tear" is simply a fluffed-up version of Al Baker's seminal "rip and read" tear and is better learned from the original source materials - either "Al Baker's Mental Magic" or the new, huge Al Baker book from Todd Karr. Jim Sisti |
Turk Inner circle Portland, OR 3546 Posts |
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On 2003-09-07 18:02, Jim Sisti wrote: Jim, Regarding your 6:02 p.m. post---Are we supposed to read your mind? Was that post a test to separate the true mentalists from the "wanna-be"s? (grin) Seriously, is the handling of Richard's new "The Perfected Center Tear" an "ultimate" improved handling of his previously used method described in his "Slow-Motion Surrounded Center Tear", or,is it an entriely different method? I have not heard or used either. In light of that, and in light of the title of Richard's latest CT ("The PERFECTED Center Tear") and the advertising blurb on Richard's web site, are you suggesting that "The Perfected Center Tear has superceded and replaced the prior method and that the older method is outmoded and not worth studying or practicing? "The Perfected Center Tear" seems really exciting and I can't wait for some reviews of the same to appear. Thanks for the info. Mike P.S. BTW, on Richard's web site there is mentioned a CT called "The Ultimate Center Tear". Is this the same CT as described in "Slow-Motion Surrounded Center Tear" or is it yet a third CT method utilized by Richard? P.P.S. On the cover of "The Perfected Center Tear" manuscript is the phrase"Book Two in Richard Osterlinfd's Professional Entertainers Mystery Series". What is/was Book One (and is it still available)?
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DaveS Veteran user New York 329 Posts |
Hi Jim,
Your and Richard's web-site would be more user-friendly if it included a list of products -- there's a search box, but it seems you have to know what you're looking for to use it. Also, I couldn't find descriptions of, nor any way to order, Richard's new "Mind Mysteries" DVD series which, I understand, includes instructions for the Perfected CT. Any guidance you can offer on how to locate the DVD info would be welcome. Thanks. DaveS
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Jim Sisti V.I.P. Connecticut 457 Posts |
Turk:
The Perfected Center Tear is the method Richard has evolved in the years since his "Slow-Motion Surrounded Center Tear" was released. While I'm not suggesting one is _better_ than the other (a purely subjective thing, incidentally), it remains that Richard now uses the "Perfected" handling exclusively and has released it to the rest of the mentalism and magic communities. Regarding the "Ultimate Center Tear," this was Richard's contribution to Al Mann's book, "The Purloined Thought" and preceded the "Slow-Motion" manuscript. Since the Al Mann book is now out of print and is unlikely to be reprinted, we thought it might be a nice idea, for historical reasons, to include this handling in the new book. This isn't to say that the "Ultimate" handling is unworkable or outdated in any way. In fact, some may prefer it. Again, a lot of these things remain purely subjective. "Book One" in the series is "The Very Modern Mindreader" which is still in print and available from us or from the usual sources. Thanks for your interest in Richard's materials. Dave: Who knew a year ago, when we first launched the site, that we would have this many products already? We do plan to put a master product list on the front page very soon. Regarding the videos, they are shipping this week and we didn't want to put them up on the site until we had them in hand. That said, please keep an eye out for their appearance as I believe they will be specially priced if the entire set is purchased. I would check back later this week. |
debaser Special user Boulder 557 Posts |
I saw Richard do the center tear recently and it is very good. Nothing extremely profound, but definately solid. If you're looking for center tear specifically, I would get the booklet since there is more info on center tear specific stuff in it, as opposed to the video. (according to Mr. Osterlind)
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Nir Dahan Inner circle Munich, Germany 1390 Posts |
Jim,
first let me appologize, I did mean the "old" Osterlind center tear which I found not satisfactory (to my needs) and not the new version. I am sorry for this mistake. as for the Lee Earle version - I am completely aware it is strongly based on the Baker move - having both the book and the Video I can tell you for 100% that the video is a better "teacher". I know most people like books over videos, but a center tear is an excellent example (as for other kinds of magic) for the superiority of video over text. it has nothing to do with my ability to understand the text or the level of my performance. I haven't seen the new Osterlind tear (I will when I get the DVDs) but so far the Lee Earle version, including the fine points he mentions in his teach-in video work best for me. Nir P.S. you can use my first name, we are all friends here, even if we have different opinions. |
Lee Marelli Special user Aurora, Colorado 876 Posts |
As I noted in another thread, Richard's CT is particulary good for those who have "dry hands." I have switched from what I had been using (my modification of Stride's which was also good for "dry Hands"), because it took less tears. I also recently had the pleasure of seeing Richard lecture on his tear and saw it close up. I would recommend to anyone to give it a try. I think you will like it.
I also got the book. As has been stated, it has other material that is well worth examining, as well as, his old center tear, so you can make a comparison. It is a bargain.
"Mentalism is a state of mind." Marelli
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playzure Regular user 143 Posts |
This is a great technique and fairly easy to learn
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andre combrinck Special user South Africa 953 Posts |
Buy the DVDs they are brilliant,with astounding routines.You won't be sorry.
Andre ajcombri@telkomsa.net |
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