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jugglestruck Inner circle Wales 1038 Posts |
This has just been released by Alakazam, has anybody seen this in action?
Floating Ring You will learn how to float a borrowed ring from your hand to theirs. Once the ring leaves your fingers you never touch it again! Created in the early 90's following the invention of the Invisible Thread Reel and only shared with a few close friends, now the full handling of Richard's amazing Floating Ring is available to everyone. Ring Flash You will make a borrowed ring cleanly vanish and then reappear in a flash of fire on a sterling silver chain. A simple and direct effect that get gasps. Included is the "Box Of Wonder", 22 inch sterling silver chain with magnetic clasps and enough flash string for 25 performances. "Richard Pinner's handing of Ring Flash has taken this effect to the next level. Excellent" - Wayne Dobson |
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mike donoghue Inner circle 1295 Posts |
This is good. The handeling for both effects is easy to do and both effects fit together perfectly. The quality and explanations on the dvd are excellent.
The chain supplied for Ringflash does not look as thick as the one in the demo, but Richards idea of the magnet in the chain is a big sterp forward and makes for a smoother routine when it comes to fastening it up. However in Waynes routine there is an extra magical moment when the ring morphs to a chain and this is missing in Richards but could easily be incorparated into it. The Floating aspect looks good and several finishes are explained but something is needed to do this which is available from all mgic dealers. I allready do Wayne Dobson's Ringflash but will be using Richard's chain and adding the Floating ring to the routine. Highly recomended MIKE DONOGHUE |
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MaxfieldsMagic Inner circle Instead of practicing, I made 3009 Posts |
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On 2011-11-03 07:21, mike donoghue wrote: There was a major release a few months ago that incorporated that exact same idea and method. Quote:
You think? Looks exactly like a ring hanging and bobbing about on a thread or string to me. Not saying that's what it is, of course... but that's what the overall effect looks like in the demo. Seems like a big step back from other similar effects that have at least attempted to have the ring spinning in midair, or some other animation that makes the ring look less like dead weight hanging from something.
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Corbett Inner circle Indiana 1161 Posts |
Richard performed and demo'd this at 4F in April, and it was well-received. It's a 2 phase routine, the floating, followed by the vanish and revelation to impossible location.
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RNK Inner circle 7493 Posts |
I must agree with maxsfield magic, the ring looks like it is hanging from something. And the appearance of the ring looks a little better, but you can see the "moment" in the video when the ring appears at the bottom of the chain. I think with good misdirection and presentation skills, the "moment" could look better.
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TheWickedWitchOfTheWeb New user 22 Posts |
As one of the 'few close friends' who has been using this method for many years and someone who has worked with Richard on many occassions I can assure you that the float is a superb effect that gets gasps and creates a real wow moment. A video is never a substitute for it happening live and the reactions are genuine astonishment. Even if someone thinks it's hanging on something (which they don't, analysis doesn't generally happen that quickly) when it lands on their hand and you can simply walk away if you wanted any thought process is hugley disrupted. Some people will bleat on about Loops and I have also used that method a lot but Richard's working is a much cleaner set up and has greater control and the opportunity for greater distance between you and the ring.
Ring Flash is also a workers dream. Amazing reactions. Somewhat selfishly I wish he hadn't released it to the wider community but if you work tables for a living, you won't regret this. |
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Jan Walla Loyal user Before you disappear I surround you with 255 Posts |
What's up with that chopped up demo video? Why not a whole performance?
What I like to see is the get ready not just the middle and end of it. Give me the whole Turkey not just the stuffing...
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Jamie Ferguson Inner circle Alba Gu Brà th 3640 Posts |
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On 2011-11-12 02:28, Jan Walla wrote: Good shout Jan. Often the set up for these types of tricks is not easy.
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mike donoghue Inner circle 1295 Posts |
I have been using the floating ring and ringflash all weekend at every event I worked at, and the reactions were great. The get ready for the floating ring is easy and I have to say that after trying many different versions over the years, that there is less chance of thread snapping with Richards routine. Not one perdon has said "it's hanging from something" The ring floates to there hand or into a glass. It is a valuable object which belongs to them, and as they can't see anything attached to it and they don't see you 'thread'( no pun intended) or tie anything onto it, they have nowhere to go with the explanation. This gets gasps then applause and also gets repeat bookings.
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jugglestruck Inner circle Wales 1038 Posts |
Mike, that's really good to know that it's working well for you.
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Jan Walla Loyal user Before you disappear I surround you with 255 Posts |
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On 2011-11-13 06:29, mike donoghue wrote: So why don't they show that in the video? Since I and many others know what's in play here I want to see the beginning of the float. That's an important selling point.
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TheWickedWitchOfTheWeb New user 22 Posts |
So what you're asking for is the method? The get set looks exactly like you ask to borrow a ring, they hand it to you, you hold it up as per the video and you're off. There is nothing to see and it would make for a dull trailer.
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Jan Walla Loyal user Before you disappear I surround you with 255 Posts |
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On 2011-11-13 17:53, TheWickedWitchOfTheWeb wrote: You are wrong buddy. I am not asking for the method but I am not a naive teen anymore, buying everything that looks cool.. I learned my lesson and judging the video there is an important part missing that would convince me to buy this...or not.
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Roslyn Inner circle UK 3405 Posts |
What's the difference, apart from the addition of a little flash string, between this and David Regal's ring to chain trick?
Could you do the ring flash routine using David's chain? I've heard that David's chain looks really good. And one a guy would and could wear (in fact in David's trailer he is wearing the chain). If the ring flash chain is less masculine as a guy I wouldn't wear it and therefore would have to carry it in a box, which takes up pocket space. By wearing the chain you don't take up any pocket space.
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Peter Nardi Inner circle 2238 Posts |
Hi Roslyn,
Ring Flash is A routine Wayne Dobson put in print many years ago. Regards Peter |
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jimesw Special user 675 Posts |
Iam so confused. This looks exactly like a ring dangling off a bit of thread. It even moves in time with the hand movements. Am I missing something?
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Cameron Francis V.I.P. 7025 Posts |
I read the original Wayne Dobson routine years ago and recently saw it again at a convention. It's simply stunning. Although my favorite part is missing from this routine; the part where the ring melts and turns into the chain. Looks so beautiful.
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Roslyn Inner circle UK 3405 Posts |
Hi,
I'm aware Wayne Dobson came up with this routine originally and I'm very interested in it. If working a restaurant or other close-up venue and you're able to produce a flash then you'll be grabbing people's attention, which is always great. My question is really, can Wayne's original routine be performed with David Regal's chain? I like the look of David's chain, I also like the fact the chain can be worn rather than being in a box. I'm not sure what the load is with David's chain, but I'm assuming it's something similar since the load is beautifully fast in both cases.
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Jan Walla Loyal user Before you disappear I surround you with 255 Posts |
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On 2011-11-14 19:08, Roslyn wrote: Great idea Roslyn! Is the Wayne Dobson routine still available in print? I believe Regals chain will accomplish this nicely with a piece of flash paper. I also want to include more fire and smoke effects into my routines. It's also great for attention (mis) direction and IMH is a new trend in magic. P.S. Love your floating flame from Alladins Oil Lamp you traded Great piece.
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Roslyn Inner circle UK 3405 Posts |
That was my next question. If David Regal's chain can accomplish this effect, then is it possible to still buy Wayne Dobson's original routine?
Maybe it's in a book or lecture notes somewhere? It's possible that Magic Books by Post would stock them, I just don't know what I'm looking for
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