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Stephane Jardonnet
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Hi,

It's been sitting on my desk for the past 3 years, so I finally decided to record the video this afternoon.

The Gimmick : A pull device

The Challenge :

1/ Being able to show as cleanly as possible both sides of the hands totally empty before performing

2/ Sleeves are rolled

3/ Vanishing any objects, not only from the magician's hand, but also from the spectator's hand
4/ Being able to retrieve the object also very cleanly directly from your pocket.

Here is the first video :
http://youtu.be/Y5gEewdaWTE

Please, note that this is a pull device, and therefore, you are not supposed to repeat the trick twice in a row, because the second time, the spectator will be much more careful, and could eventually see the gimmick.

However, I can guarantee you that the trick work like a charm when you perform it for the first time, and it fools badly.

Also, the smaller the object, the easier of course.

More to come within the next day (More videos, more information)

I hope you'll like it Smile

Sincerely,
Stephane Jardonnet.
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Very nice!
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I like it stephane.
kinda reminds me of the gecko though.
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Hi Todd,

You are right ! Gecko is a pull device. Raven is a pull device. The universal pull device is a pull device. No matter what type of pull you use, it will always be what it is : a pull device.

When I started magic, the raven was not existing, nor the gecko. I was using the universal pull to vanish a few objects from my hand, having to hold the device in my hand and trying to keep it natural.

Then the raven showed up. Great amelioration. Then the Gecko showed up : Even better.

Well, in this version, you can show both sides of your hand empty in a natural way, then perform the pull, sleeve rolled, even in the hand of the spectators, using an invisible pull, to perform a crystal clean vanish Smile
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I like it. Very nice that oyu can show both sides of your hands before and after the vanish. Nice job Stephane!
When is the release date?!
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Wasn't that already released a while ago?
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Ha stephane
I know with the raven you can show both sides
of your hands to be empty.does it work
in a different way?
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Those videos look edited. They jump at certain times. If I am wrong then you have created a device that looks like real magic.

This is nothing like the Gecko or Raven. Bowers, you obviously don't have either of those devices. Raven cannot show hands that clean and Gecko, well, just forget it. Very cramped hand positions.

If the videos are not edited during the vanish, it is seriously fantastic.
James
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On 2011-11-11 20:47, Xiqual wrote:
Those videos look edited. They jump at certain times. If I am wrong then you have created a device that looks like real magic.

This is nothing like the Gecko or Raven. Bowers, you obviously don't have either of those devices. Raven cannot show hands that clean and Gecko, well, just forget it. Very cramped hand positions.

If the videos are not edited during the vanish, it is seriously fantastic.
James


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Noise has got to be an issue with most of those larger items. It does look very impressive.
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Looks like it might have potential but the over the shoulder camera shots of pulls in action are completely redundant-Better off with an honest front on view of what the spec would see.

Luke
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On 2011-11-12 08:54, LukeB wrote:
Looks like it might have potential but the over the shoulder camera shots of pulls in action are completely redundant-Better off with an honest front on view of what the spec would see.

Luke


I like to see that as well and in a medium shot not that close to the hand
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Xiqual
evidently you don't have the raven.
because I can show front and back of the
hand in a natural way.but some [ maybe you ] I guess
might not be able too.
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Hi James,

The video is not edited in any way. If it looks bumpy, it may come from Youtube maybe ?

As per the views, I have 4 different views on 6 effects :
- Top view for the deck vanish (By the way, the deck is brand new and full of cards)
- Spectator's view for the coin and the lighter. As you can see, nothing falls on the floor
- Side view for the jumbo coin and remote control
- Almost my view for the can

Now, just as per ANY pull device, it is not surround free. It has angles. I do not want too many people on my left, because it is harder not to flash in that angle. (I am right handed) I do not want anybody under me neither, because people will understand how it works. But in front of me, or anywhere on my right, it works just fine Smile
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The vanishes in the demo are not edited but when he pulls the ring
out of the pocket there is a jump.

For me would be relevant how easy the item can be retrieved, reproduced, detached from the
device.

Remember: If you make it vanish you also have to bring it back.
That's the hardest part...the prestige. Smile
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Stephane
when will this be for sale.
and what will be the price of this product.
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Ok,

I have update the websites. You can find it on my personnal website, and since this is a co-production with Arteco Productions, it is also on their website :

http://www.jardonnet.com/crystal-vanish-......eva.html
http://www.artecoproductions.com/crystal......eva.html

Here is the second video. I am considering doing it again, because I had to edit the retrieving from the pocket, therefore, I am not 100 % satisfied with that. Even though, it works exactly as you see, I know some of you will have doubts. The problem with me being in front of the camera is that I do not see what needs to be shot again. Beside, it was shot with only 1 cam, so I do not have the camera 2 as a back up if the camera 1 shot is bad...

What's interesting in this video though is that the sound is not edited in any way. You can hear the pull device in action. The device being very small, the object being small too, it is almost silent !

http://youtu.be/hdUT2G-5BuA
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Stephane,

the video is clearly edited as you said and yes, I, for my part, have doubts because I have seen and bought so many awesome looking devices and tricks by 'unfortunately' solely judging them by a video performance. Once received they turned out to be trash. So yes, I am careful nowadays in what I invest my money in. Don't you agree?

So far I only own one effect of yours which is Signed & Sealed. The method is nothing new and revolutionary BUT I like your new discovery of how to seal the deck which resolved a crucial problem compared to other methods...
I think you are ethical but I have to see more of you...

As a professional you should know that even a ten year old catches that edit and for me it is clearly a turn off because it should not be there if the retrieval is 100% kosher.

Awaiting your new video....

respectfully,

Jan
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LOL! I have all these:
Raven
Gecko
Asp
Universal pull
Dragon
Vernet holdout
Three Jack Miller holdouts
Black widow
python pull

You cannot show your hand as clean with the Raven. It still looks different than totally empty hands.


No edits? Wow, nice, how much and when?
James


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On 2011-11-13 01:08, bowers wrote:
Xiqual
evidently you don't have the raven.
because I can show front and back of the
hand in a natural way.but some [ maybe you ] I guess
might not be able too.
Still with the Chinese circus Smile
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Hi Jan,

Thank you for the feedback on signed and sealed Smile

As of today, I am behind a little less than 50 magic tricks. The one I sold the most being the Kaps on fire wallet, where the idea was to be able to show a regular wallet after burning it on fire. Some of the less popular probably being the burning credit card effect, or deckscape.

Technically, I always try to improve tricks to make them more practical. Crystal vanish is not a new method on how to retrieve the object that vanished.
I want to be clear on that subject. In the DVD, I explain a few methods that allows you to retrieve it quickly and efficiently in a natural way, but I believe these methods have probably been described elsewhere.

What's important to me in this pull device is the ability to show very clearly both sides of the hands before and after the vanish. This is so clean that it looks like real magic. I am very proud of it Smile

Also, the DVD will teach some of the basics on using a pull device, which is also very important if not crucial.

If you buy a pull device, no matter how advanced it is, but do not know how to properly vanish the object, do not know your angles, do not know the timing or body position, you are going to say: whatever. This stuff doesn't work. As in fact, it's not the device that doesn't work, but the performer that doesn't know how to use it.

To me, it is even more important to learn some of the basics along with the purchase of the device. And that's what will come with it.

I will not place myself as a pull expert. I will only share my experience with it, and review the why it could go wrong using the video as a tool, and show some of the techniques I use to make it successful.

Also, I want to clarify another point: it is not self working. One will need at least 6 to 10 hours of practise to master the pull device and obtain an acceptable rate of success.

However, it works, and it works as described in the video demo, without any editing of any kind. I stand behind my product Smile
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