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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Geeze I wonder why they have those things in the first place?
Also it is not as easy as it once was to find a table with a dollar limit. As someone said earlier it is tough to find one with that big a bet spread.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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tomsk192 Inner circle 3894 Posts |
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On 2011-11-18 14:06, Dannydoyle wrote: So true. |
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Mr. Mystoffelees Inner circle I haven't changed anyone's opinion in 3623 Posts |
Interesting how people will take a million to one chance that something will happen (like win the lottery) but shy from a million to one chance it won't (like 10 reds in a row).
I came up with this idea years before I had heard (on this forum) of the martingale system. I have used it many times with a minor alteration: I wait until a color has come up 3 times in a row before I place my first bet on the opposite color. I understand odds and probabilities as well as most, but the fact is the system has not failed me yet. Table limits are scary though, and a few times I have come close. Dollar tables are hard to find and I usually go for the $5 tables- your minimum win is $5 and the limits are generally higher. Also, you need an active wheel. Jim
Also known, when doing rope magic, as "Cordini"
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
I have often said that long ago science grossly underestimated the birthrate of the average sucker.
I do not think you understand odds and probability quite as well as you claim. This system has NEVER FAILED YET? Seriously? That ALONE speaks to a lack of reality.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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GothicBen Veteran user England 353 Posts |
Systems only 'appear' to work in the short run. That's why they're so attractive. But table limits, the house edge, and the Law of Averages ALWAYS wins in the long run.
If you want to play this system for an hour or so whilst on vacation, be my guest. It may even help you win more. But spend 500 hours in the casino and you'll soon come to see the folly of any Martingale, Paroli, or Labouchere! |
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bblumen Special user Baltimore 987 Posts |
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On 2011-11-26 14:49, GothicBen wrote: What is this "Law of Averages" of which you speak? Brian
"Lulling the minds of your company is more important than dazzling their eyes." Ed Marlo
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GothicBen Veteran user England 353 Posts |
Check out http://wizardofodds.com for more information. He explains it far better than I ever could!
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silverking Inner circle 4574 Posts |
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On 2011-11-26 07:56, Mr. Mystoffelees wrote: Why on earth would you think that a single color coming up three times in a row would be the "tell" to go ahead and bet on the opposite color? Quote:
I understand odds and probabilities as well as most, but the fact is the system has not failed me yet. Apparently, you don't. As for your "independent" discovery of the Martingale system, you're probably the 5 millionth guy to "discover" it on his own..........and use it thinking you were gaining some sort of "edge". |
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Mr. Mystoffelees Inner circle I haven't changed anyone's opinion in 3623 Posts |
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On 2011-11-26 09:09, Dannydoyle wrote: No, Danny, that speaks from experience. In the real world, successful gamblers consistently defy the odds the armchair experts love to quote. Of course, those odds eventually prove true- given infinity. But it just doesn't play out you will pick the ace of spaces just once every 52nd pick. Real players know when they are on, and when they are not. If you're gonna play the game, boy, you gotta learn to play it right. And, yes, IT HAS NEVER FAILED ME YET! Don't ever call me a liar again... it makes you look like an arse...
Also known, when doing rope magic, as "Cordini"
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
I LOOK LIKE AN ARSE? YOU claim to have a system to beat roulette after 3 spins and I look like an arse? Seriously?
I never called you a liar, only a sucker.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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splice Inner circle Canada 1246 Posts |
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On 2011-11-26 18:22, Mr. Mystoffelees wrote: Real dumb suckers, maybe. The best thing for the casinos are suckers who think they're sharp. |
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GothicBen Veteran user England 353 Posts |
Like I said, you will usually win in the short run, but in the long run, the house always wins.
Gamblers Anonymous is full of people who didn't know when to stop but are convinced 'the system works; I just didn't follow it correctly' Trust me... |
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silverking Inner circle 4574 Posts |
Mr. Mystoffelees, you write (and therefore sound) like a classic sucker.
Your statements are transparently uninformed. In effect though, you're every casinos dream customer. |
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Mr. Mystoffelees Inner circle I haven't changed anyone's opinion in 3623 Posts |
Danny- I guess I misinterpreted your post, so please accept my apology.
Silverking- My statements are factual. Can you really believe that NO ONE wins at the casinos? Yes. compulsive gamblers lose- lots. But there are also "players" and some of them come up winners. How does that happen if one can NEVER beats the odds? And, yes, one casino likes me to the tune of a suite comp. Sure I have to put a certain amount at risk, but they do not care if I win or lose- they want action at the tables, and winners help that action. Why the ad hominem? Is it because you really can not speak to actual experience? Do you put $$$ at risk? Do you always lose??? Truly I leave this "enlightened debate" unconvinced by the pundits and fed up with the pejoratives! One other point to the issue: Critics do not realize how often you win after two or three spins, but it happens a lot. More than 5 in a row is rare for me, and yes, there have been times when I pulled from the table and waited for the next run. This is NOT automatic, it requires thought, feelings, ability to leave the action. You go on thinking it just never works, yup you do that...
Also known, when doing rope magic, as "Cordini"
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silverking Inner circle 4574 Posts |
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On 2011-11-27 13:32, Mr. Mystoffelees wrote: I didn't say they weren't factual, I said they were "transparently uninformed". Quote:
Can you really believe that NO ONE wins at the casinos? Nowhere did I say that, or imply it. Quote:
How does that happen if one can NEVER beats the odds? Your'e not "beating the odds" mate......you're simply playing within the mathematical constraints of whatever game you're engaging in. Quote:
And, yes, one casino likes me to the tune of a suite comp. See my "dream customer" notation above. Quote:
Sure I have to put a certain amount at risk, That's all the Martingale system requires, it's not like "you" have anything to do with winning or losing. Quote:
but they do not care if I win or lose Again, you're uninformed on this matter. Of course they want you to lose, that's what the entire process is predicated on. I've not yet discovered any gambler or casino that makes "giving away money" part of their business plan. Quote:
Why the ad hominem? Sorry, but calling a "sucker" a "sucker" when they make statements only a sucker would make isn't an ad hominem.........it's simply telling it like it is. Sorry if that stings (which it seems to be doing), but you made the statements, I didn't. Quote:
This is NOT automatic, it requires thought, feelings, ability to leave the action. You go on thinking it just never works, yup you do that... It doesn't require "feelings", "thought", or anything else......it only requires that you're willing to risk your money. That desire of some folks to continue to be a sucker (and enjoy every minute of it) is what the entire casino industry business model is predicated on.................so go enjoy your suite! |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Wow no need to say you are sorry to me. Really. I have to ask this question. Do you think they give you a suite because they think you are going to win?
Really after 3 spins and all your "feelings" you are a winner. Good for you. Have a great time. I wish you the best.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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splice Inner circle Canada 1246 Posts |
So all you have to do to win is be lucky and be a psychic. Sounds like a completely practical system that can't possibly ever fail. Anyone who doubts you surely must be an idiot. It's a wonder the casinos let you bet at all, why, your strategy stands above the rest and you obviously play like such a skilled player, I wonder how you avoid heat. It must be tough getting those bets in when using such a powerful system.
I'm actually surprised you haven't run some casinos out of business by breaking the bank yet. You must have such self control to not abuse this incredible new, underground system. I sure hope no one else ever catches on because the casinos are sure to start employing counter measures soon! |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
I bet the first counter measure is to send a limo for him.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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splice Inner circle Canada 1246 Posts |
Yeah, a limo to the desert more like! Casinos hate sharp, skilled players such as those who use the Martingale correctly. It's all about knowing when to quit!
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Yea or when to start! 3 reds in a row is the ticket. Then the Martingale works.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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