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maxpax
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It's a good method if done well. I remember when I first tried it on a friend and stopped an thought after he picked up an object. Afterwards he said "It's amazing that you could predict what I would pick but it seemed like you were just making everything up. Can we try it again?" My method was not that repeatable so I said "I'm out of mana" and went to get a glass of water. Then we played some xbox.
But I digress.
Confidence and practice is key to magicians choice!

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On 2012-01-04 14:20, Harry Lorayne wrote:
If not completely confident when doing magician's choice, you shouldn't be doing magician's choice!

Hi: Thought I'd stressed that above.
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maxpax
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I guess it never hurts to hear twice though!
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Then three times is much better!
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Well it depends. You have two choices....either you choose to keep equivoque in which case you throw the other choice out..OR you choose the other option in which case you throw THAT one away leaving you with equivoque. Either way it is a free and open choice. The decision is yours.

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To become confident in the magician's choice, you need to understand why it works. This force relies entirely on the principle that the spectators have no idea what is going to happen next. For instance, if you get the spectator to point to 2 of the three items being displayed, the spectator has no idea if you are going to use those two items or discard them and use the 1 item that remains. In other words, you DO NOT tell the spectator what you are going to do with their choice in advance of the selection being made. Also, NEVER REPEAT a trick that relies on magician's choice to the same spectators (since then, they will have an idea of what will happen next).

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The best way to analyze the temporary suspension of disbelief is by taking a look at movies. When you go to a movie and sit down in the theatre, you know that what you are about to see on the screen isn't real. And yet, the movie that "isn't real" can still evoke tremendous emotions and leave you completely drained by the time it is over. When you leave the theatre, you know the movie "isn't real" but it doesn't lessen your enjoyment of it.

So, what makes a good movie? I would suggest the following elements:
1. A believable and likeable protagonist
2. Scenes, situations and experiences to which the audience can relate - it has meaning

With this in mind, imagine a situation that could be perceived as real magic by the spectator. Imagine are shopping and there is someone in front of you at the cashier. Unfortunately, she only has $10 and the price for her purchase is $20. You offer to provide some assistance as you casually fold up the $10 bill and transform it into a $20. After that, you simply walk away.

Being slightly short of funds is a situation that many of us may have either faced or feared. So we can relate to it. It has meaning. In this situation, you are not a magician but rather, a likeable and helpful bystander. It is likely that, upon reflection, the shopper may realize that she just witnessed nothing more than a very generous magic trick. But how long do you think this situation will be remembered? Why? It has meaning. You took advantage of the moment and created astonishment.

Now, compare this situation to a sponge ball routine. Is there any meaning? No. It's still a good trick but, even with a very likeable performer, it remains a mere trick/puzzle. So, the first key step to creating a temporary suspension of disbelief is to provide a meaningful and engaging reason for your actions. As soon as that meaning disappears, the spell is shattered.

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I'll fourth Harry's opinion; don't use it unless you're comfortable with it and can do it without thinking about it. If you're taking the time to think about it, then your spectators are too. It should be smooth as fresh butter on a baby's butt.

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Okay, bad mental image, but you get the point.

Is there any way you can work the effect with only one MC/PATEO instead of three?
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On 2012-01-23 19:07, Ekuth wrote:

Is there any way you can work the effect with only one MC/PATEO instead of three?


I don't think so and I don't think I can explain exactly why without exposing it. But it's OK. I have plenty of good stuff to work on that doesn't involve such things including a whole host of terrific effects in TCC1 which will keep me going for a long time. Maybe I'll go back to this effect at a future date.

Thanks again to everyone who commented.
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There are ways in which you can disguise equivoque by varying the procedure. A good illustration of this is in Christian Painter's Protoplasm- Touchstones. For example if you get another spectator involved then the rules change. I also agree that confidence is integral, also the speed at which you continue the effect.. do not hesitate!
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