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mtgoldstein Veteran user Houston, TX 325 Posts |
All In
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Mb217 Inner circle 9530 Posts |
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On 2011-12-20 15:49, Steven Youell wrote: After this recent Presidential election, if you could only get the Republicans and Dems to buy in to this, that would be some real good magic for the country.
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slowdini Regular user 122 Posts |
Maybe we should have a 'boxing ring' forum where when an argument errupts, the chiuauas can bannish themselves to the ring and brash it out without screwing up the main thread.
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billmarq Special user State near Arizona 570 Posts |
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On 2012-12-28 09:30, slowdini wrote: We actually tried this idea on non-magic message board where I am an administrator. We called it "One on One." It didn't work. The forum turned into a slush box for any off topic discussions and for a long while was the most popular forum although it rarely had anything to do with the board's purpose. The arguing and name calling got so bad we had to limit access to the forum. People are strange.
Honi soit quit mal y pense.
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slowdini Regular user 122 Posts |
That's interesting Bill. Initially I was thinking in terms of it being a forum to be ignored by those not interested in bikering. Anywhoo.. Not to change the subject but I just received a nifty set of Walton books that need some braking in so have a wonderful day ya'll.
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Zack_Johnston Special user California 656 Posts |
I'm in.
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Ricardo Delgado Loyal user 230 Posts |
I'm in
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Muddy Dench Regular user 107 Posts |
Yawn. The OP violated this within days of posting it.
I find it strange that someone has to post rules to govern others' behavior when they can't govern their own. Decent people act decently. They don't need rules imposed upon them. Much more important than these "I will ... I will not ... silly statements, is making good on commitments after one has taken others' money. Still haven't seen Keys to the Kingdom, have you? |
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MRSharpe Special user Never a dull moment with 940 Posts |
I'm in.
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magicwatcher2005 Elite user Washington state 446 Posts |
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On Apr 13, 2014, Muddy Dench wrote: +1 OP has a long history of being one of the very worst offenders. |
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billmarq Special user State near Arizona 570 Posts |
Mr. Youell has a bona fide, proven, mental disorder. He did some inappropriate things because of it. This may not make one feel better about him or the loss of money for an undelivered product, but perhaps he is entitled to a bit of sympathy. I truly hope he makes good on his commitments.
Honi soit quit mal y pense.
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magicwatcher2005 Elite user Washington state 446 Posts |
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On Apr 14, 2014, billmarq wrote: I don't agree... with the sympathy part. His moods would appear to controllable with medication (or some other method), but he has periodically gone off the deep end SO many times he's definitely dried up all the sympathy most people can muster. I read him claim earlier in this thread that he knows of six well-known pros who won't come on the Café because of the bickering that he seems to think he can separate himself from. Maybe... Maybe not. But I know several dedicated magic enthusiasts who no longer post here solely because they've fallen under one or more of HIS personal attacks. Not the "bickering" as a whole, but simply the relentless craziness that is Steve Youell. . |
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PeterSteele111 New user 52 Posts |
Im in
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R.E. Byrnes Inner circle 1206 Posts |
This seems more like a disingenuous gambit to leave the OP as the only one using these tactics.
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Muddy Dench Regular user 107 Posts |
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On Apr 15, 2014, R.E. Byrnes wrote: Yes, would have to agree. |
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inigmntoya Inner circle DC area native, now in Atlanta 2351 Posts |
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On Apr 15, 2014, magicwatcher2005 wrote: From someone who has lived with one struggling with mental illness, THAT is the nature of the beast. It comes, it goes, it's managed well for a time, and then not. I don't fault you for not understanding -- it's difficult to grasp until you've seen/lived it. That said, for those that do understand, your comments are a bit like not having sympathy for someone whose cancer goes into remission a number of times but keeps coming back. |
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magicwatcher2005 Elite user Washington state 446 Posts |
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On Apr 17, 2014, inigmntoya wrote: Thank you for not "faulting" me - especially since, despite your pompous assumptions, I DO understand. I understand the struggle for someone who has "loved ones" struggling with mental illness. What YOU don't understand is that for most of us Steve Youell is absolutely NOT a "loved one". So why should we be forced to suffer through HIS ups and downs? He should have been given the permanent boot YEARS ago - and I can only imagine that someone in a position of power here is either too close to him or too afraid of him to take that logical step. . |
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Muddy Dench Regular user 107 Posts |
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On Apr 17, 2014, inigmntoya wrote: That's really an inept analogy and misses the point. No one would wish mental illness on anyone, and I certainly wish him a speedy and complete recovery. We all should be sympathetic in that regard. There are also actions that have been taken that have involved promises, money, and unmet obligations. This has occurred not just once, but several times. And, even though obligations remain unfulfilled, posting on magic forums continues unabated. You advocate sympathy for that, but that just sends the wrong message and encourages repetition of bad behavior. |
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inigmntoya Inner circle DC area native, now in Atlanta 2351 Posts |
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On Apr 18, 2014, Muddy Dench wrote: Exactly how is my analogy inept, unless you're saying that a relapse in mental illness is the patient's fault and thus not deserving compassion? You're reading into what I said. I said nothing about excusing or encouraging any kind of behavior. I was addressing the lack of sympathy towards one dealing with mental illness, as if it was their fault and they could control it if they "really wanted to." |
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inigmntoya Inner circle DC area native, now in Atlanta 2351 Posts |
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On Apr 18, 2014, magicwatcher2005 wrote: There were no assumptions, pompous or otherwise. I was responding to what you wrote: Quote:
"His moods would appear to controllable with medication (or some other method), but he has periodically gone off the deep end SO many times he's definitely dried up all the sympathy most people can muster. " That statement says you believe his moods are under his control, or should be. From that it's a deduction, not assumption that you don't understand, or misunderstand the nature of the illness. Quote:
I understand the struggle for someone who has "loved ones" struggling with mental illness. What YOU don't understand is that for most of us Steve Youell is absolutely NOT a "loved one". I fail to see how "loved ones" have anything to do with this. Quote:
So why should we be forced to suffer through HIS ups and downs? No one said you had to. |
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