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Chris W Regular user Have you seen my 176 Posts |
I agree with Jim. I try to add an interesting and entertaining patter for my effects, so I applaud him on his patter. But I do feel like it was too long for the shortness of the routine. The routine was good though.
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cablerock Veteran user 362 Posts |
What book/dvd would simply explain how to do this? I can't figure out the technique behind just picking up the coins.
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Dr. JK Inner circle Sandusky, OH 1191 Posts |
As mentioned above, it can be found in Apocalypse Vol. 1, no. 1 (which is published together with the first five years as "Apocalypse 1-5"). If you would prefer a DVD, it is taught on David Roth's Expert Coin Magic Made Easy DVD set (3 DVDs). Those are probably the "simplest" places to learn it, although there are others if you read the above posts.
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Andrew Zuber Inner circle Los Angeles, CA 3014 Posts |
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On 2011-12-26 11:12, Mb217 wrote: I would second this 'really?' Lots of talking, almost no routine....
"I'm sorry - if you were right, I would agree with you." -Robin Williams, Awakenings
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Remotea New user 50 Posts |
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On 2011-12-28 00:23, Andrew Zuber wrote: Reconsider the concept of routine and you will see routine. That is to say, Pop's routine. |
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rannie Inner circle 4375 Posts |
Some like red wine.... some like white. The great thing is... we can all get drunk (not silly drunk) and be merry either way! Unless we want to copy Pop's routine word for word and move for move, we all don't have to agree or disagree about our preference. Audiences... even magicians, have different tastes.
It is great though to share why you like it or dislike it. After al this the topic is not abot which is best.
"If you can't teach an old dog new tricks, trick the old dog to learn."
-Rannie Raymundo- aka The Boss aka The Manila Enforcer www.rannieraymundo.com www.tapm.proboards80.net |
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Andrew Zuber Inner circle Los Angeles, CA 3014 Posts |
It's not that I don't appreciate the concept of it. I just prefer less patter and more visual magic.
"I'm sorry - if you were right, I would agree with you." -Robin Williams, Awakenings
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J-Mac Inner circle Ridley Park, PA 5338 Posts |
Rannie,
I love most of Pop Hadyn's routines, though in most there is some magic happening all along while he patters in that fantastic drawl of his. I just don’t particlarly like the long story and very short bit of magic in his Chink-a Chink. Heck, he even did it twice at the end and it still was too little too late IMO. I'm surprised that no one has mentioned Michael Ammar's take on Chink-a Chink: Shadow Coins, where he brings Chink-a-Chink to the floor and moves the coins with a bit more flair. It's a great version IMO. Thank you. Jim |
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rannie Inner circle 4375 Posts |
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On 2011-12-28 11:07, Andrew Zuber wrote: I know Andrew! I/WE appreciate your opinions and contributions. Thanks!
"If you can't teach an old dog new tricks, trick the old dog to learn."
-Rannie Raymundo- aka The Boss aka The Manila Enforcer www.rannieraymundo.com www.tapm.proboards80.net |
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rannie Inner circle 4375 Posts |
Quote: On 2011-12-28 11:32, J-Mac wrote:
"If you can't teach an old dog new tricks, trick the old dog to learn."
-Rannie Raymundo- aka The Boss aka The Manila Enforcer www.rannieraymundo.com www.tapm.proboards80.net |
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Remotea New user 50 Posts |
Once you have been exposed to the method for Chink-a-Chink, it's nice to have an entertaining story that can accompany it - in this regard I think Pop gets it right.
Otherwise the method can become simply routine, in the negative sense of the word. |
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feher Inner circle Michigan 1421 Posts |
I feel this routine is best when it's part of a set and has a lead in by another routine, like how Roth does it. Done by itself it's not as strong IMHO. I also feel a lot of routines that claim is "better" then the original by Roth have just made too many moves, and have way too much hand crossing within the "better" versions. simple is better in this case, (really in most cases) I'm talking non gaff versions.
If done in a parlor act a big screen is a must otherwise close-up is the way to go. Here is an example of how I perform the routine. This is just Chink a Chink no lead in routine. Notice how my hands really look to be hovering over the coins, not covering the coins. Routine is much stronger if you give the impression hovering not covering. Just my two cents. Tim http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIbGRtajho0
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J-Mac Inner circle Ridley Park, PA 5338 Posts |
I know I have told you this before, Tim... I just love that complete turnover to palms up right before the last move! That alone sells the whole routine.
Jim |
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funsway Inner circle old things in new ways - new things in old ways 9982 Posts |
'tis our sense of awe and wonder that hovers above the coins.
This should be offered to all of those thinking of spending a lot of cash for a coin gaff.
"the more one pretends at magic, the more awe and wonder will be found in real life." Arnold Furst
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jazzy snazzy Inner circle run off by a mob of Villagers wielding 2109 Posts |
That looks great Tim!
Kozmo opens his street act with something similar. Surprising how quickly this gets attention.
"The secret of life is to look good from a distance."
-Charles Schulz |
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Mb217 Inner circle 9520 Posts |
Your 2 cents is worth a million bucks here Tim my friend. .
Though I can appreciate other takes on this classic effect, for my money the way you do it is how it's done, with or without patter. The magic is so evident, not hidden or pushed way off to the side somewhere perhaps hidden beneath the reputation of a big name that can do no wrong. It's just you and the coins and truly it don't get no better than that for me. Your as good as any of them, the best of them, to me. Wonderfully done and as mentioned here your little enhancement on the effect would make Roth proud as with it you have made what he did even better IMHO. And I know David Roth is a real hero of yours...I know he would be absolutely proud to see what you do with this fine work. Anyone would be doing themselves a real service to learn this from you. Happy New Years to all. -Mb
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Chris W Regular user Have you seen my 176 Posts |
My goodness that looks insanely good Tim. I watched it three times and enjoyed it more each time.
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Lawrence O Inner circle French Riviera 6811 Posts |
Tim,
I've seen many great magicians at Chink A Chink (including Whit Haydn, David Roth, Michael Ammar) but I disagree with you on the need for a lead into the effect. If you watch Al Schneider's take on the effect, you may change your mind in that respect.
Magic is the art of emotionally sharing live impossible situations
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bowers Inner circle Oakboro N.C. 7024 Posts |
Very nice performence tim
todd |
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Atom3339 Inner circle Spokane, WA 3242 Posts |
Music was GREAT with this, Tim. I think Mr. Schneider would approve of your floating. A feel good bit of magic.
TH
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