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Jonathan Townsend
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Those coin presentations hinted at (with ships, rabbit, sheep) sound fine. Bravo!
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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Laurie, just so you know: There is a Portugese 50 escuedos coin that is half dollar sized and has a beautiful ship on it.

Check this out: Don't know if it will be of use but I love it.

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqEOKiUE1yW......~_35.JPG
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Thankyou, Jon. Smile Thankyou, cablerock. I was using the Virginia state quarters , before, which are also very nice.
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On 2012-05-23 19:30, magicalaurie wrote:
Hi Jim,

Yes, using nickels for this presentation now. I was using quarters but that changed yesterday. Smile

I do have another presentation for chink-a-chink which uses sheep coins, also nickel size. I have some larger sheep coins, but they're too big, I think, though I don't recall having tried them for chink-a-chink. The coins dictate sometimes.

I have also used the sheep nickel sized coins for "Thieves Pitchin' Sheep" along with a couple of Canadian 1967 wolf half dollars.

I use the Canadian 1967 rabbit nickels too:

in "The Great Rabbit Escape" here

and Dynamic Rabbit Duo


Very nice.

Thank you Laurie. Smile

Jim
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I think effects presented to a credible story line are always successfull -- setting a memory along the "what will I tell my grandchildren" theme as they recount your presentation. Since you cn easily gift a coin to a spectator it will be even more powerful.

On the presentaion side there is a version of Chink-A-Chink described in "TUC Appreciation" that could be of use as the Sleights involved allow for different endings than the traditional Roth format. Thus, on a reshowing to the same spectators you can modify the story and sequence and still arrive at the same "port." I think these Sleights "PCpick and PClay" can be done with a nickle with small hands. Additionally, this approach allows you to lift your hands from the table during the routine for gestures and "Shutting the door."

I'll send you an extract if you wish with a request to gusarimagic@comcast.net
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You're welcome, Jim. Thanks, Ken. Smile
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This post is directed at Andrew.
I side with you. I just don’t get what these people are saying.
I can understand a dancer moving close to the audience is generous.
It is kind of like sharing.
I saw a puppet guy go into the audience and have his puppets dance on kids laps.
That was great and the audience loved it except for the 90% of the audience not able to see the puppet dance on the laps of some kid in the front row.
But as far as making the coins move toward the audience and have it seen as being generous: sounds like theater babble to me.
That is what happens when such groups in an academia elite get together and become elite.
You can always spot a theater person, they talk funny.
Whit Hydn said once that you can’t teach theater people magic.
I have always maintained that magic is not an art because those that claim it is an art do crummy magic.
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Now I will wait for the noise to settle down and present reasoning for why Matrix is blocked the way it is.
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Someone's looking for a row. Must be going 'round.

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Whit Haydn has referred to actors untrained in performing magic and the difficulty in directing them in the nuances involved for magicians communicating their presentation of their magic to an audience. If you are suggesting that Whit's saying a "theatre person" can't become a magician, I'd say that's a serious distortion of his comments and his stance, Al.

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Oh my.
You got me.
I just realized a great example of this.
David Copperfield.
He was clearly trained in theater.
His initial shows were full of theater.
Dancing, interesting plonts and on and on.
But he was performing in the real world.
Your are right he learned.
His shows eventually dropped all the dancing, and plot.
He began to act like a magician and he learned quickly
His shows became really, really good.
Well not good, phenomenal.
The point is he dropped the theater BS and hit the road with good magic.
Magic Al. Say it fast and it is magical.
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On 2012-05-24 12:56, Al Schneider wrote:
This post is directed at Andrew.
I side with you.


Glad to hear it, Al. Given the high quality of magic you've put out over the years, and the positive influence you've had on so many excellent magicians out there, better that than the alternative...
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On 2012-05-24 19:59, Al Schneider wrote:
Oh my.
You got me.
I just realized a great example of this.
David Copperfield.
He was clearly trained in theater.
His initial shows were full of theater.
Dancing, interesting plonts and on and on.
But he was performing in the real world.
Your are right he learned.
His shows eventually dropped all the dancing, and plot.
He began to act like a magician and he learned quickly
His shows became really, really good.
Well not good, phenomenal.
The point is he dropped the theater BS and hit the road with good magic.


Possible the BS you say he dropped was just that.
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WHAT the heck is this post about NOW???

Chink-A-Chink, anyone?

BTW, I love your pretty, classy coins, Laurie.
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OK, now that we have that out of the way, I would like to discuss my opinion of coin collection blocking.
The first issue to address is speed.
Most magicians are not aware that normal specs cannot follow what is going on.
We, as magicians, can track what is happening for we know at many levels what is happening.
Normal spectators do not have that advantage.
Normal spectators take 5 to 10 times longer to grasp what is happening.
To drive this point home, I would like to use an example from a different discipline.
That would be karate.
Sorry but this will take some time.
Part of this example occured in the Fox Fun n Magic shop downtown Detroit, MI.
The owner was Roy Kissel and one day was visited by John Osborne.
On that day someone came into the shop that caused trouble.
Roy, to quell the intruder, raised his hand and produced an appearing cane and threatened the intruder.
The intruder grabbed the cane and wrapped it around Roy's arm.
John said he was going to look for the police and left the store looking for a cop.
John walked out of the store walking down the street looking for this cop.
He turned and saw the intruder following him.
John said the intruder was about 5 steps away from him.
John then said the guys fist was in his face and he blacked out.
The point is that John, not being familiar with fighting, could not see the intruder move five steps and punch him in the face.
Contrast this with another incident in which Doug, a karate friend, had a similiar encounter.
Doug was driving north of Detroit going to a lake cabin.
An incident occured on the highway and some big guy in a big chevy forced Doug off the road.
Doug is of slight build and was driving a little Toyota.
They both got out of their cars and approached each other.
Doug was about to say something but when the guy got close to Doug, the guy started to sucker punch Doug.
Doug, by the way, was about half way to Black Belt.
What Doug observed was interesting. Here is what went through his mind.
First he thought, "Oh he is trying to sucker punch me."
Then Doug thought, "Should I use an inside/outside block or an outside/inside block?"
"I will use an inside/outside block, then I will punch."
"But I really don't want to hurt him so I won't hit a kill point. I'll just hit him in the mouth."
"Then I will kick him to make sure this is all over."
Then Doug said, "I WAITED FOR THE PUNCH TO COME."
Doug then used the outside/inside block. The guy got big eyed when Doug brushed the punch away.
Then Doug pulled his fist back and hit the guy in the mouth.
Doug said the guy flipped backward and fell like a tree to the ground.
Doug said he fell so fast he didn't get a chance to get the kick in.
Doug got in his car and drove away while the guy was goveling on the ground.
My Point.
John not being familiar with fighting could not see anything when a man took five steps and punched him in the face.
Doug, being familiar with fighting, saw every detail in slow motion when the attacker was in his face.
Magicians are the same when it comes to magic. We see great detail. The normal spectator does not.
The vast number of magicians believe the audience has the same powers of observation as they.
This should affect the way a performance is executed.
Unfortunately, it does not.
Well, I have gone long on this.
I will introduce ramifications and consequenses of this on my next post providing this thread stays intact.
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Thankyou very much, Atom.

Jim, I forgot to mention some penny sized coins I've been wanting to put to work for a while now. I've just recently found a job for them, inspired by a precious pattern of fabric I got on ebay. I've been looking for a presentation for "Instant Coins, Purse, No Glass" for some time now, but could find one that really clicked until I realized I had coins to match this fabric. I made a purse with the purse frame I've had waiting in the wings for work also for several years now. Smile It got a little banged up crimping it down with pliers but this purse will suffice til I can make an one a little more precisely.

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The penny sized coins are farthings.

reverse side:
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the Alaska grizzly bear quarter is one the prettiest coins I believe I've seen, so glad to find a job for it, too. Smile :
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And here's a photo of the nickel sized sheep I use in a presentation of Chink-a-Chink. It's actually a silver toned coin, the lighting was a little yellow when I took this pic, but it illustrates the detail of the coin. I'll put up a video of the sheep Chink-a-Chink too, soon as I can.
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If I was using those coins and that purse I'd open with: "Now, bear with me a moment..."
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
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Excellent! Smile
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Just noticed that the SHeep coin is Turkish -- interesting
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Yes. Ebay has them listed as Turkey 500,000 lira.
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My Turkish is very rusty and my dictionary limited, but I think the inscription means something like

"Never allow hunger to dull your wits"

maybe finding out could help your story line
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