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On 2012-01-04 16:07, TStone wrote:
Since Hawking is know to have a rather drastic sense of humor himself, it's not unlikely that he would have found Acer's text to be funny.
Like in this case: http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/christ......_update/

That's not surprising. Where would we be without humor.
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Where would we be without humor.


Hanging out with Vlad and Funsway, apparently.
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Got word that David Neighbors contributed a trick that's written up in the January Genii. Has anybody seen it?
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There are just some things IMHO Tom, that simply are not funny and should not be the subject of "humor."


I disagree wholeheartedly. Once we travel down the road of avoiding a subject because it is someone's sacred cow we would very quickly run out of material. In my opinion EVERYTHING is funny, and I include in this all of the tragedies that have touched me and my family personally.

Where do we draw the line. David Cross's impression of Hawking talking to a hooker is hilarious to some. The comedy troupe Big Guy Lil Mike did an amazing sketch called Astrophysics based around 3 students and 1 teacher who shared Hawkings condition. Unfortunately the only clip I could find on Youtube was a private video.

Tasteless and crude? Absolutely. But not funny? Nope. Freaking hilarious.
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I don't mean to throw fuel on a fire, but I thought that was hilarious. Of course I'm not envisioning it the same as Vlad and Funsway. Maybe I've watched too many Simpson and Colbert Report episodes having fun with Hawking to visualize it in a violent way. Still I believe Acer didn't intend it the way they are taking it.

I wonder how Hawking would have thought?

To take the edge off this thread I thought you two might enjoy this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ei-pKsNiINk
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Thanks for posting that link, rkosby. I hope that anyone who believes Dr. Hawking needs them to defend him from what David Acer wrote in Genii will watch that clip of Hawking talking about his experience as a guest star on The Simpsons. Not only does it show that Hawking has a sense of humor about himself, it actually includes a shot of the cartoon Hawking punching someone in the face -- and Hawking jokes that sometimes he is sorely tempted to do that in real life.

Given that Hawking has a sense of humor -- and that he doesn't view jokes about punching people in the face as scandalous and offensive -- I have a strong feeling he would find the outrage over the Acer line ridiculous and unnecessary.
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An interesting turn of focus, as I certainly never suggested that Hawkings needed any defense or addressed what he might think at all. My concern is how readers might be affected by the idea that personal violence against a stranger is appropriate or acceptable behavior. The amount of violence in our culture is "learned behavior." I do no think that our art is furthered by magicians participating in this attitude.

You, as a performer have the ability to influence the attitudes of yiour audience. Is supporting violence as a response to a fictional character really what you wish to do? Do any of you really find a reference to personal assualt humorous, or is that just a cover up for some deaper fear?
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Why is it funny when someone slips on a banana peel? Are the Three Stooges funny? Why do people pretend to be pirates or make heroes of them in movies? Why do we watch magicians saw a woman in half?

I believe there have been doctorate theses written on such topics.

Did you not watch the video clip in which the cartoon version of Dr. Hawking punches Principal Skinner in the face? Was that funny or a call to personal violence by Dr. Hawking who approved of the representation?

The point some of us are trying to make is that neither Mr. Acer nor his editor are evil human beings espousing hatred and violence as your initial post implies.
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My concern is how readers might be affected by the idea that personal violence against a stranger is appropriate or acceptable behavior.

Before going any further, I humbly suggest you take one of these.
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Where would we be without humor.


Hanging out with Vlad and Funsway, apparently.



Best post on this topic! Nice one Andrew.

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On 2012-01-05 06:10, funsway wrote:
My concern is how readers might be affected by the idea that personal violence against a stranger is appropriate or acceptable behavior.

Before going any further, I humbly suggest you take one of these.


... and then go and see this:

http://www.ents24.com/web/artist/19862/Jerry_Sadowitz.html
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Well, I took a few runs at it in this thread and the other one funsway started about the exact same thing. I'm gonna quit now before I'm tempted to get rude. Smile
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Mr. Hawkings is currently celebrating his 70th birthday! Remarkable man with a remarkable life.
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It's Hawking, there is no "s"at the end of his name and this thread seriously suggest the existence of Quantum Realities.
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Thank you, Jonathan. I meant no offense. Good to see you posting here.
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The QR post wasn't a jab at you, this is an odd thread, and I shouldn't correct people's spelling because I am the worst speller in the world. I apologize if you felt I took offense. I am an avid astronomer, hence a huge fan of Hawking.
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I think its a shame that someone would cancel their subscription over this silliness. For the record, it is because of funny, talented columnists like David Acer that I subscribe year after year. Keep up the good (funny) work Mr. Acer!
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I had a subscription to Genii as a kid, and I just got my first new issue of the magazine in something like 30 years. It was the January issue, in fact. I just want to say this: If anyone else chooses to cancel their subscription over this silliness, I hope they'll consider just changing the delivery address to mine instead. Smile
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I've received some odd comments about things I've written or published over the past 35 years, but this is certainly one of the most strange.

FrenchDrop: glad you enjoyed the first issue of your new subscription!
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Richard, I don't have a subscription yet. I had one for years as a kid. Just started getting back into magic last year, and had Magic Warehouse toss a copy of the latest Genii in with a recent order. (They make it so easy -- or tempting -- with buttons for the latest issues of Genii and Magic that show up every time you add a product to your cart. Smile)

I'm glad I clicked the Genii button. I should probably subscribe and save myself some money over buying it at cover price every time I order something online....
"A great magician has said of his profession that its practitioners '… must pound and rack their brains to make the least learning go in, but quarrelling always comes very naturally to them.'” -- Susanna Clarke, Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell
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