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randyburtis
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You do an older kids show with some blood etc type effects and gags, correct? how do you deal with the folks who say it would be dangerous to do that what if a kid copied it etc...
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David Kaye
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WEll, I have thought a lot about this issue. I do a scary show for kids 7-11 years old. It really scares them. But you know what? They love it, and I have become rich from performing it. This is all my opinion and I suspect others here may disagree with me.

I just don't see kids as being stupid. Maybe 3 and 4 year olds might do something cause they are just naive. But Parents who worry that kids will copy dangerous things are just lousy parents. If they are concerned, they should spend a little more time with their kids. I have said this a thousand times when I am criticized for my actions or words. How can anything I do erase 5 or 8 years of parenting? If your parenting skills are so lame that your kid sees something dangerous once and copies it, then you arent doing your job as a parent. If you are a good parent, then the child knows right.

Sometimes, lets say at a magic convention in Tennessee, I might say something that upsets some people. Well then I go to my favorite example. If a child walks down the street and sees a man smoking a cigarette, the child doesn't see the man and think, "Gee that looks pretty cool. I am going to start smoking." No! He knows what his parents taught him for years about smoking and that's that. The same if a child hears a bad word. They don't just start saying it. They have been parented and know whats right.

Okay, back to danger. In my horror show, which I do for 7-11 year olds, I do the knife thru arm. So lets say a kid goes home and says the magician put a knife thru his arm, that looked like fun. Well, as soon as the blade touches his arm he is going to start to feel some pain that he wont be happy about. And he will stop before any damage is done. But still, His parents have told him many times by then not to play with knives.

We should give kids credit for being smart beings who can see the outcomes of their endeavors. If kids copied why don't we hear about kids blowing stuff up because they watch mythbusters, or shooting at cops because they watch Law and Order, or even taking a jig saw and sawing their friend in half because they saw a magician do it. Why don't kids jump out their window to fly because Superman does it? We never hear about kids copying a magician with a bad result because it never happens.
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David,

I'm a huge fan.

Just so you and others know, though, years ago there was one child who jumped out the window attempting to fly after seeing the first Superman movie. (Sorry, I can't recall if the child died.) His parents sued the film company. This happened many years ago and I just can't recall what happened with that law suit.

Thanks,

Gerry
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On 2012-01-16 00:12, David Kaye wrote:
We never hear about kids copying a magician with a bad result because it never happens.

That should be tattooed on every magicians forehead. We have become far to careful with our kids. They are not stupid.

I used to do the knife through arm for older kids, especially around halloween when a scary show was asked for. It went down great. Then one show a woman (not a kid) began screaming. She screamed so loud and so long, everyone else got upset. And I was blamed!

When you look at some families you realise their kids would have a better life, and a better grounding in reality, if they had no parents.
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Tony, when I did a senior citizen's show at a resort in the Catskill Mountains many years ago, I did Harry Anderson's Needle Through Arm trick. It went well until I made the "blood" start dripping. One elderly lady fainted and I was asked not to do that one again.

I thought adults knew this was a trick and not real. Guess I was wrong.

Gerry, I remember hearing about that Superman incident many years ago. I don't know if it is true and, if so, what the outcome was.

Sadly, in today's society, anyone wanting to make a buck will look for any means to sue someone.

Glenn
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Glenn,

I used to do the Needle Thru Arm in my scary "Dr. Blood" show. I had to take it out, it was just too realistic. It is a very strong effect.
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Thanks David, good to know I am not the only one who had to leave it out of the show.

Glenn
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David,

Big fan! I wrote the following article and it's been posted online in several areas. Thought you might enjoy the read...

http://weeklymagicfailure.blogspot.com/2010/12/pc-bs.html
In Mystery,


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Christopher,

I enjoyed that article. I think we agree. Usually, in my case, the birthday child has seen me before and knows what is in store. They chose me. It isn't forced on them.
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