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Most of the "occupy wall street" encampments are already gone . . . but I learned from a story about a protest on Australia Day, that there has been an aboriginal "occupy" style tent city outside of the Australian house of parliament for . . . . forty years . . . I know the climate Down Under is more hospitable and so forth, but still . . . that's stick-to-it-iveness, aint it? Although it evidently isn't getting them what they want . . .
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Can't expect real change.
It's amazing, people will criticize you for "biting the hand that feeds you," while they're busy praising the hand that beats them.

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Just all depends on what one thinks constitutes real change.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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In the sunny old land of Oz? Pansies. The Occupy Spokane crowd is out in the snow right now. Agree or disagree with them, that's pretty hardcore.
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The "Aboriginal Tent Embassy" was "established" 40 years ago. But it moved around during its first 20 years, and existed sporadically. Only for its last 20 years has it been established continuously on a single site.
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20 years is still pretty persistent . . .
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Oh, absolutely.
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The Aboriginal Tent Embassy was established 40 years ago but it came and went for years and started as just a beach umbrella.

It's certainly not a city - usually just a few people.

There have been huge strides forward for Aboriginal Australians during that 40 years, but I wouldn't put that down to the embassy, although it contributed to awareness.

Aboriginals were recognised as citizens and recalcitrant states forced by the Commonwealth to give them the vote in the sixties, after a referendum in which Australians overwhelmingly voted in favoour of the First Australians. The Whitlam Labour Government which came to power after the embassy was established ended the White Australia Policy and started the move to Land Rights but that had been their policy from before the embassy. Since then there have been many advances - it's generally agreed, not enough, but we're getting there.

Native Title to land has been recognised by the High Court, the previous Prime Minister made a National Apology for injustices over the years and a lot of money has been put into improving Aboriginal health, education and welfare. At the moment there is bi-partisan support and work going on to include recognition of the First Australians in the preamble to our constitution.

The 300 strong rabble who went from the Embassy celebration to confront the PM and Opposition Leader on Australia Day have been condemned by many Aboriginal leaders for their behaviour.
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If only the rabble of 300 had headed off the politicians at the Hot Gates...
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At the hot gates, that was no rabble . . .
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Nothing new under the sun. Grandpa talked of demonsrations in the 1960s in the US of A.

Hope they stay dry and out of the winter elements out there.
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On 2012-01-27 18:27, Woland wrote:
At the hot gates, that was no rabble . . .


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Persians. And they found out otherwise.
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Persians are Iranian. I know one. He's actually a pretty cool dude.
I'm not dissing the 300 Spartans. Although the Naval fleet deserves some fricking kudos for that battle too.
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Persians are Iranian. I've only met one, but he was really cool. Worked in housing discrimination and had some great stories about his life.
Anyways, I'm not dissing the 300 Spartans. I love those guys. I do think it's about time the Naval fleet got some danged recognition in that battle though.
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Stupid glitchy double post. It didn't show up so I re-wrote it. Not re-writing this, if it vanishes then it vanishes.
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The problem with the protests is that they are peaceful. You will only get change by voting out the incumbents, or overthrowing them. Sitting around to make them feel bad won't work. I admire the sentiments of the Occupy movements, but they really need to get off their arses and push home their point.
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Yeah! Nobody's ever accomplished anything with a peaceful protest! Not ever!












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What does Ben Kingsley have to do with it?
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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On 2012-01-27 23:18, LobowolfXXX wrote:
What does Ben Kingsley have to do with it?

Well, he was in Sneakers.
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