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Steve_Mollett Inner circle Eh, so I've made 3006 Posts 
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On 2012-02-04 18:22, Tony Iacoviello wrote: I like that. 
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IAIN Eternal Order england 18807 Posts
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If we were to make a grand list of bad things people do to one another...and we worked out the percentiles for each, where do you think this would rank?
at what level can we condemn ALL with the same sentence? therapists, doctors, police, teachers, ice-cream vendors, they have all been found guilty of doing some VERY naughty things to other people - for money, for power, for sex, for their own "good"... and yes, there ARE some people who do the same in the psychic community (loose term that I just used to help speed things up) - so...before we can condemn people as frauds, taking advantage of, ripping off, making them dependent... we have to look at real evidence for this...if anyone has some, great - lets see it, otherwise, all we have is people making wild assumptions over what they think happens, and only look at evidence that backs up their own world view... can't have it both ways...simple.
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Godzilla Inner circle Tied & Untied Witches on 5316 Posts
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[quote]On 2012-02-04 21:37, Blueboy wrote:
Many women routinely fake orgasms... WHAT ??? Who told you this ? :)
"If you watch Godzilla backwards, it's about a big ass lizard who helps rebuild a half burnt-down city, then moonwalks back into the ocean"
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PhiltheBear New user Southampton, UK 72 Posts
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On 2012-02-05 16:14, Godzilla wrote: Bet it wasn't a bloke 
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Leland Stone Inner circle 1204 Posts
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Psychic? Medium? Po-TAY-toe? Po-TAH-toe? Big end or little? Might as well argue whether leprechauns are dressed in silk coats or frock.
I see your "Hamlet" and raise you "Tyrian": "No, of course not. They never do tests. Not many real deeds either. Oh, conversation with your grandmother's shade in a darkened room, the odd love potion or two, but comes a doubter, why, then it's the wrong day, the planets are not in line, the entrails are not favorable, 'we don't do tests'!" They don't do tests because they can't pass tests. Sometimes, they can't even figure out to hide the mic properly. 
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Roslyn Inner circle UK 3405 Posts
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This link was posted in Penny, but I think it belongs here as it relates directly to this thread: http://psycicornot.wordpress.com/2012/02/28/hello-world/
I know this is just one person's comment. And there's zero proof that what is written here is any more trustworthy than anything written on the web. But it does make it seem as though the evidence against her is stacking up.
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cirrus Inner circle his minions made 1751 Posts
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On 2012-02-04 18:22, Tony Iacoviello wrote: what part of this scene are you referring too? |
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cirrus Inner circle his minions made 1751 Posts
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On 2012-02-04 18:08, jerome96114 wrote: to quote the matrix: the mind makes it real. They don't know that psychics aren't real, they don't know the tricks of the trade. Even if you bill yourself as a mentalist they don't know it isn't real, if you play your character well, the mind makes it real. |
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Roslyn Inner circle UK 3405 Posts
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On 2012-02-29 09:37, cirrus wrote: Cirrus, It's this that makes it so easy for the vulnerable to be taken advantage of and means we have to be careful when we do what we do for non-magicians. When I first saw Derren doing Lift and Reminiscence back in 1999 I was a nieve 18 year old with very little knowledge of magic and for a moment, until I read his book that I bought after the show, I believed that what I'd seen was real... And this was performed at a magic convention! It's easy to convince people when you're good at what you do, it's even easier if they believe you're genuine before they even get inside the theatre. I'm not against séance, readings and other psychic entertainment. Far from it. But people should be treated with respect and not taken advantage of.
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cirrus Inner circle his minions made 1751 Posts
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I'm not saying that you should take advantage of them, I'm only reffering that what we do isn't real. If we don't believe it's real we should stop with what we do, because then the whole illusion is gone.
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Lucien Astor Special user Sunken R'lyeh 661 Posts
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I was re-reading my Milbourne Christopher "Illustrated History of Magic" not too long ago. Of great interest are the early chapters about sleight of hand as used by Shamans. There is evidence that they used trickery...not to fool or deceive people, but rather to exteriorize an internal experience. Performing a 'trick' became a way for the shaman to make visible and beleivable, something that was subtle and the Shaman knew was real for him. I myself am a sceptical occultist, and use magic not to deceive...but to communicate the Otherness, and Strangeness I feel about the world.
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Voodini Inner circle 1783 Posts
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On 2012-02-29 13:39, Lucien Astor wrote: I like that. The idea that using a technique of some sort is a way of demonstrating physically something that is in fact spiritual and ethereal and has no physical substance.
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cirrus Inner circle his minions made 1751 Posts
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Ritualum by Luca volpe is a great example of establishing change by some trickery and making the effect stronger.
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Roslyn Inner circle UK 3405 Posts
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Cirrus, please don't take offence. I wasn't attacking you. I was agreeing with you and simply adding to your statement. Sorry if it didn't come across as such.
Lucian, I second what Paul said. Lovely idea about using a trick to illustrate the spiritual. Great idea that could prove very powerful.
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cirrus Inner circle his minions made 1751 Posts
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Reading text is difficult to understand the underlying message. No offense taken. I have sometimes difficulty reading the underlying message, that's why I sometimes think that I'm being offended. sorry for this.
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Roslyn Inner circle UK 3405 Posts
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No worries my friend.
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Lord of Illusion Veteran user Has his enemies stuck on 310 Posts
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On 2012-02-04 18:08, jerome96114 wrote: Jerome, we do not go and pee in your forum (Good News), please do not come pee in ours. Thank you Oh...and learn to spell....
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