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REV BILL
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I have the Combo Cups and Balls.I have not perfected what I want to do so I have not performed them live yet. I was wondering if anyone has set aside 2 cups and finished the routine with a short Chop cup segment and end with a final big load with the Chop cup only? Do you think it would play better if I either:1) loaded the other 2 cups,set them aside, do the Chop cup portion and bring the other 2 back into play to reveal 3 big loads OR 2) Do a straight 3 Cup routine and leave out the Chop cup portion at the end. Your opinions and or suggestion please. --Rev.Bill
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Andrew Zuber
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What kinds of routines inspire you currently? I find with these things that it's not about what's best, but rather what you like and what you feel will play to your audiences.

Personally, I think a short chop cup segment would be interesting, and then bring the other two cups back at the end for the big finish. The time misdirection is great because they forget about those cups, and then to get them with the final loads at the end makes for a pretty cool finish in my opinion.

An alternative would be to start with just the chop cup segment, and then bring in the other two after the first phase and continue with the routine from there.
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When you say "chop cup segment" what exactly do you mean? Merely using the principles of the gaff or a "guess where the ball is" segment? In Mendoza's combo cup routine he does as you wrote in 1 above...I think that plays better...
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Here's a combo cup routine that goes down to a single cup. It has the advantage that no sleight-of hand is required. The chop feature does all the hard work. I'm not sure, but I think the chop feature even does the final loads.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEYmGnK4K9g
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On 2012-02-13 16:03, kentfgunn wrote:
Here's a combo cup routine that goes down to a single cup. It has the advantage that no sleight-of hand is required. The chop feature does all the hard work. I'm not sure, but I think the chop feature even does the final loads.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEYmGnK4K9g

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Andrew,

It's only fair. I've quit weeing on the plants. There had to be a compromise somewhere!
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What a good boy!
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Kyle Elder
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I agree with andrew with re introducing the 2 cups to reveal the 3 final big loads.
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Hi Rev,
I find it hard to just use the gimmick in a traditional three cup routine and can't resist the urge to not "waste" an opportunity to combine the cups and balls with portions of a chop cup routine. I wouldn't do a Don Alan or Paul Daniels type routine, those are great chop cup routines for JUST one cup, and are best performed as stand alone effects, but...

I'd suggest reading Gary Ouellet's manuscript on The Two Goblets and see what you come away with from that.

I think that some of the problems that need to be overcome with a routine that starts with three cups, and then ends up with one, are:
- It tends to run too long.
- Tends to be too repetitive.
- In scripting, phrases like, "Perhaps this is too complicated", "I'll eliminate a cup" or "there are too many cups" feed into the puzzle mentality of the observer and take away from the magic.

But I don't think these problems are a deal breaker.

I think it is also mostly unexplored to begin with one cup and then grow to three - utilizing the chop cup alone then growing into three cups and more balls and eventually the jumbo loads. This sounds interesting.
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