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gdw Inner circle 4884 Posts 
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On 2012-02-15 16:13, Dannydoyle wrote: I'm sorry for not noticing your initial question directed at me. I don't really see how whether or not I have first hand knowledge of gang life and/or living with gangs is required for my opinion on policies meant to address gang behavior in school to have validity. That being said, though I do not have much firsthand experience, I do have some knowledge on the issues at hand.
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts
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Glen-
I think that Laurie doesn't know that we speak (figuratively) like this to each other all of the time and neither one of us (I think) is particularly upset or offended about it. If I didn't enjoy arguing with you I wouldn't bother. Best- Bob |
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gdw Inner circle 4884 Posts
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On 2012-02-15 17:18, mastermindreader wrote: :thumbsup:
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 2653 Posts
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Why does that smiley face have a p... oh, wait, it's just an arm. Okay, we're good.
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27300 Posts
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IMMO two of the basic questions are:
1) What sort of answers are appropriate to give when asked about such a costume - remember social roles and costumes are cultural and cross dressing is about costume. 2) What sort of boundaries are suitable to impose on students as regards their own clothes at school? I believe I addressed the gang colors and politics of costume in other posts and don't see that as too helpful to bring into this post.
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 2653 Posts
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...IMMO... "Ivan Makes Monkeys of Orangutans."
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27300 Posts
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On 2012-02-15 17:34, critter wrote: Lovely distraction - got another?
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magicalaurie Inner circle Ontario, Canada 2962 Posts
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On 2012-02-15 17:18, mastermindreader wrote: Hey Bob, I was just pointing out where my interpretation of ridicule in your post came from. It was a simple point, that Lobo proceeded to magnify and I've attempted to clarify. I don't expect either you or gdw have your feathers particularly ruffled on this. My sister and I often engage in as, Siegfried would put it, "good discussions", and folks have got their fingers on the keypad ready to dial 911 with Tracey and I giving each other a bewildered "What is their problem?" look. I get it. Apologies if I misinterpreted your "tone". If I was a Café tone police person in the first place would I keep saying B******t!? Y'all have misunderstood me on this, as well, yourselves, I think, FWIW. :) |
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 2653 Posts
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On 2012-02-15 17:36, Jonathan Townsend wrote: "Irene Munches Many Olives."
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
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acesover Special user I believe I have 821 Posts
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On 2012-02-15 17:51, critter wrote: OMG. I know Irene "the olive muncher" and her brother Ivan.
If I were to agree with you. Then we would both be wrong. As of Apr 5, 2015 10:26 pm I have 880 posts. Used to have over 1,000
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 2653 Posts
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No way! You from Lemhi County?
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
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magicalaurie Inner circle Ontario, Canada 2962 Posts
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Jon, regarding those two basic questions, I think teachers need to get together with parents, maybe with students present would be a good idea, and these discussions should be had, information gathered, and processed. Proceeding from there with serious consideration. I've addressed these questions- they go deeper than the costume, the human equations need calculating.
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27300 Posts
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Lauie, in all fairness one does not calculate human values - it's not a mixture problem.
Social roles are just that - stereotypes with costumes and fashion and mannerisms. IMHO that's not such a great thing to bring into a classroom for all ages for obvious historical, political and religious reasons.
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts
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Laurie-
All is cool and I think it's a good thing that once in a while we get called on the way we speak to each other. Good thoughts, Bob |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts
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On 2012-02-15 17:45, magicalaurie wrote: I wasn't trying to distort (or magnify) your point; I was trying to make a separate-but-related point of my own.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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gdw Inner circle 4884 Posts
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Who likes BANANAS?
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
I won't forget you Robert. |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts
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Monkeys.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21263 Posts
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On 2012-02-15 17:16, gdw wrote: You SERIOUSLY don't see why not having first hand knowledge of gang life and what drives people to it might be relevant? I know you enjoy pontification as do many here, but my friend life is what happens while you are busy "googling" it. You can not put forth solutions unless you know what is causing the problems in the first place. Thank you for proving my point.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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magicalaurie Inner circle Ontario, Canada 2962 Posts
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On 2012-02-15 18:07, Jonathan Townsend wrote: Fair enough. I retract the term, Jon. What would you recommend, Danny? You're not the first here to suggest gangs aren't easy to pin down. |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts
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On 2012-02-15 16:13, Dannydoyle wrote: Some...not extensive, by any means. I (substitue) taught in a Gang-heavy district for a year, I've also lived with an LAPD cop and done a fair bit of pro-bono work in gang areas. I don't spend too much time out and about in those neighborhoods, but I know who's where, for the most part, in So. Cal.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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