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TheMag1cian Inner circle Ottawa, Ontario 1274 Posts |
Also, not quite sure where I gave advice Sean and if I did Im sure I felt I had something to contribute. Last time I checked that's what this forum was for.
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TheMag1cian Inner circle Ottawa, Ontario 1274 Posts |
And it will be my first getting paid gig "on stage". I've also never done "hors-d'oeurves" strolling in a large 50th b-day hall either. So I was getting advice on what routines I should use to make sure all people had an experience. I've been doing magic for 15 years and you can trust that I know my sh** .Not that need to explain myself to you anymore. Im starting to think I could get people to my show before you or Parmenion. People don't generally like people who are arrogant and put others down. Personality plays large and true colors often get revealed in chat rooms. Defamation of character is not cool .. especially when it's so far off that its humorous.
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Sean Giles Inner circle Cambridge/ UK 3517 Posts |
Chill out mate. No one accused you of anything. The only one making accusations here seems to be you. Read my one post again and tell me is that your idea of bullying? Take a deep breath and relax. And maybe check the bad language too.
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FrenchDrop Inner circle I can name that tune in 1647 Posts |
Parmenion, Mag1cian...everybody needs to calm the $#%@ down....
"A great magician has said of his profession that its practitioners '… must pound and rack their brains to make the least learning go in, but quarrelling always comes very naturally to them.'” -- Susanna Clarke, Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell
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TheMag1cian Inner circle Ottawa, Ontario 1274 Posts |
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On 2013-01-22 13:38, Sean Giles wrote: I'm good to go. Just saying it was uncalled for. Parmenion surely wasnt "jaded" by my previous posts in different rooms seeking advice.ANd even if he was there is nothing to be jaded about. Im sure Im not the only magician here to ask advice and also give advice from time to time. Reread your post and tell me the start of your phrase wasn't to describe me then throw in the old "Im not saying the Magician is like that" to clean it up. You said quote "ONE WEEK ago he was asking for advice for his first gig in march and now he's talking about doing 3 gigs a week and getting booked for politicians"! So whats that supposed to mean? Sounds like you're accusing me of fabricating facts. But you made no sense. My first gig "on stage" is what I was referring to. All Im saying is your message was quite assumptive, condescending and wildly incorrect. And you post a link of a post I made regarding this thinking what, that you were exposing some kind of fake magician? Parmenion intentionally acted a fool for reasons unknown to me and you support it and justify it with untrue theories. |
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TheMag1cian Inner circle Ottawa, Ontario 1274 Posts |
This isn't a reality series fellas. Lets leave the drama and keep talking magic. That too much to ask?
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FrenchDrop Inner circle I can name that tune in 1647 Posts |
It's not a contest to see who can make the most consecutive posts, either.
"A great magician has said of his profession that its practitioners '… must pound and rack their brains to make the least learning go in, but quarrelling always comes very naturally to them.'” -- Susanna Clarke, Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell
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TheMag1cian Inner circle Ottawa, Ontario 1274 Posts |
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On 2013-01-22 19:39, FrenchDrop wrote: lol okay .. guess we're not talking magic. Getting on board French Drop? I just said lets talk magic. that's called an attempt at peace. |
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Nathan Kranzo V.I.P. 2955 Posts |
Hey guys!
Man I missed all the bickering! : ) I'm not sure what the original question even was now. BUT I did notice a few people who were talking about it MISSING or NOT WORKING. I really can't understand this. Unless you perform it completely wrong......or do it for someone that does not understand English well. It was also mentioned that the selection process is weak. Man.....if you only knew how insignificant it really is. After performing it literally thousands of times. You'll realize that does not matter at all. BUT If you don't like the selection process then DON'T USE THAT METHOD. Ask my audiences if they even REMEMBER how the page was chosen. IF they do I will BE AMAZED. : ) Plus there are so many ways to do it. THINK! Right now there is a very specia offer. http://kranzomagic.myshopify.com/collect......all-time Right now I'm giving away my MINDZILLA Mentalism series FREE when you order the Tru TEST!!! http://kranzomagic.myshopify.com/products/mindzilla-vol-3
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TheMag1cian Inner circle Ottawa, Ontario 1274 Posts |
Hearing great things Nathan. Can't wait to try this out. Be glad you missed the juvenile bickering ... just some inner circle guys trying to push people around with the usual "Im the master and these other magicians should have no voice". Very off topic I know. Anyhow, this will be my first book test as I venture further in to the realm of mentalism and I can't wait. It looks absolutely awesome. I loved your psychomatic deck (use celebrity faces and include in my celebrity routine). All I know is this looks very promising and I cant wait to give it a whirl.
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Stephen Young Inner circle Thought Illusions 3933 Posts |
Just an idea for Tru Test.
I use it as one half of a 2 part effect. The first effect is Al Koran's newspaper word prediction (sorry name's gone from my addled memory banks) Spec chooses a number and writes it on an envelope , I rip a newspaper page into sixteen pieces, count down the stack of torn pieces to their number. There is one word that stands out which they read out loud. It matches a prediction in the envelope they are still holding. When I take out the newspaper page, I also take out a Tru-Test page and hand it to a second spec. I tell them to do as I do. They rip their page as I am ripping the newspaper. I finish effect one and then turn to spec 2. I say they can go with the same number as spec one, or choose their own number. They count down to whatever torn piece they like. Then I go into Tru test with them. Phase two cancels out the method for phase one. A nice double hit. No one questions where the magazine page came from. Steve |
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Sean Giles Inner circle Cambridge/ UK 3517 Posts |
TheMag1cian, Can you stop with the insults? Nobody pushed you around, nobody bullied you and no one said or implied the words that you quote. One post was made that you didn't like and it prompted a torrent of responses and accusations from you of being pushed around and bullied.
It's out of order to accuse me of bullying you and pushing you around when I did no such thing. I abhor bullies. In fact let me include the post below in which you were supposedly bullied and pushed around so you can read it again. Read it carefully. NO bullying and NO pushing around. Just an opinion. That's all it is. Let it go and this thread WILL stay on topic but if you continue to accuse me then I am compelled to come here and defend myself. Here's the post in full. Quote:
On 2013-01-22 13:38, Sean Giles wrote: Now in an attempt to get this thread on track I would like to ask if anyone is using this in a close-up environment and if so, how they are finding it. |
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Stephen Young Inner circle Thought Illusions 3933 Posts |
The use of the effect I described above I use in close-up.
I used it Monday night while sat in a restaurant after a rather nice Indan meal. Steve |
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Sean Giles Inner circle Cambridge/ UK 3517 Posts |
Clever idea Steve. Do you get good reactions/ feedback?
Best Sean |
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TheMag1cian Inner circle Ottawa, Ontario 1274 Posts |
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On 2013-01-23 11:14, Sean Giles wrote: Mr. Giles .. anyone who read the post in question can see that "you're sick of magicians doing magic for a few mins then giving advice" ---> researched my previous posts and made a mockery of me by saying "ONE WEEK ago he was asking for advice for his first gig in march and now he's talking about doing 3 gigs a week and getting booked for politicians!" C'mon Sean. That was rude and uncalled for and you know it. Like I said, you tried to clean it up by saying "I'm not saying The Mag1cian's like this" but funny how you used me as the example of those types of people. Read the posts I started in this TRU TEST thread. I just bought the effect and had a few normal questions. You post basically saying I deserved what I got from Parmenion because of previous posts? That my friend is bullying no matter how you look at it. Again, many magicians (new, old, etc) are within their rights to both ask advice and give advice and shouldnt fear doing so here. We shouldn't have to defend previous posts where we simply ask advice for an unfamiliar venue. We definitely shouldn't have to deal with being belittled (using false assumptions) by the more elite users here such as yourself. If anything should you not be aiding magicians spread their wings. Even if a magician started for 5 mins .. what if they came up with an extraordinary idea that even the most seasoned magician hasn't given yet? You're saying the new magician should shut their mouth and not give any advice because they're new? How about answering some of these questions instead of just reposting that "Im the one accusing"? which doesn't make sense at all. As sad as it is, Ive been defeding myself here since my first few posts. It's been you and Parmenion on the offense. So please don't get it twisted Sean. Im not a new magician, and even if I was it shouldnt be frowned upon to give advice if I felt it was warranted and appropriate to the conversation. In fact, I bet established magicians could use some of these fresh new ideas and turn them into something. Only a bully would say that their sick of these new magicians trying to give advice. The fact that you used my previous post (that ended up making no sense because I was talking about my first stage gig) insinuating I was new and shouldnt be giving advice because, as you stated, quote:" ONE WEEK ago he was asking for advice for his first gig in march and now he's talking about doing 3 gigs a week and getting booked for politicians!" proves my point. So what did you mean by that quote? Enlighten us? If it wasnt meant to be mean or insinuate that I was new or lying about something .. then what did you mean? |
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TheMag1cian Inner circle Ottawa, Ontario 1274 Posts |
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On 2013-01-23 11:29, Stephen Young wrote: Very nice Stephen. I will play around with this. Regards, Jeff |
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RNK Inner circle 7479 Posts |
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On 2013-01-23 12:45, TheMag1cian wrote: Mr. Giles .. anyone who read the post in question can see that "you're sick of magicians doing magic for a few mins then giving advice" ---> researched my previous posts and made a mockery of me by saying "ONE WEEK ago he was asking for advice for his first gig in march and now he's talking about doing 3 gigs a week and getting booked for politicians!" C'mon Sean. That was rude and uncalled for and you know it. Like I said, you tried to clean it up by saying "I'm not saying The Mag1cian's like this" but funny how you used me as the example of those types of people. Read the posts I started in this TRU TEST thread. I just bought the effect and had a few normal questions. You post basically saying I deserved what I got from Parmenion because of previous posts? That my friend is bullying no matter how you look at it. Again, many magicians (new, old, etc) are within their rights to both ask advice and give advice and shouldnt fear doing so here. We shouldn't have to defend previous posts where we simply ask advice for an unfamiliar venue. We definitely shouldn't have to deal with being belittled (using false assumptions) by the more elite users here such as yourself. If anything should you not be aiding magicians spread their wings. Even if a magician started for 5 mins .. what if they came up with an extraordinary idea that even the most seasoned magician hasn't given yet? You're saying the new magician should shut their mouth and not give any advice because they're new? How about answering some of these questions instead of just reposting that "Im the one accusing"? which doesn't make sense at all. As sad as it is, Ive been defeding myself here since my first few posts. It's been you and Parmenion on the offense. So please don't get it twisted Sean. Im not a new magician, and even if I was it shouldnt be frowned upon to give advice if I felt it was warranted and appropriate to the conversation. In fact, I bet established magicians could use some of these fresh new ideas and turn them into something. Only a bully would say that their sick of these new magicians trying to give advice. The fact that you used my previous post (that ended up making no sense because I was talking about my first stage gig) insinuating I was new and shouldnt be giving advice because, as you stated, quote:" ONE WEEK ago he was asking for advice for his first gig in march and now he's talking about doing 3 gigs a week and getting booked for politicians!" proves my point. So what did you mean by that quote? Enlighten us? If it wasnt meant to be mean or insinuate that I was new or lying about something .. then what did you mean? [/quote] Are you serious??? LOL!!! Bullying????? Come on, grow up and let it go. You are starting sound very defensive like you are a new magician. Just let it go...... Peace & Chicken Grease, and fun for all!!! RNK
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TheMag1cian Inner circle Ottawa, Ontario 1274 Posts |
Wow another inner circle? Do you guys have a gang sign too?
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FrenchDrop Inner circle I can name that tune in 1647 Posts |
Mag1cian, don't be paranoid. "Inner Circle" just means you have 1,000 posts or more.
At the current rate, you'll get there by Saturday.
"A great magician has said of his profession that its practitioners '… must pound and rack their brains to make the least learning go in, but quarrelling always comes very naturally to them.'” -- Susanna Clarke, Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell
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TheMag1cian Inner circle Ottawa, Ontario 1274 Posts |
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On 2013-01-21 21:08, saysold1 wrote: Why don't you all ask Saysold1 what he thinks about how this all started. An Inner Circle member who "doesn't" believe I deserve disrespect for no reason, although he'd probably agree I should have just not responded to Giles assumptions that I was new and thus I shouldn't be giving advice and subsequenlty ripping apart a previous post I made (which I guess isn't bullying and is a normal part of the Café etiquette here). Anyways, I wouldn't expect any type of apology and trust me .. too much goes on in normal life for me to allow a chat room with a few rude magicians to get me heated. I just want to talk about magic. The comment from me that got this all started was "whats the probability of getting caught with the effect"? That's it. Parmenion was less than helpful (ask Saysold1) then his actions were justified by Giles. There is "growing up" to be done here .. not on my part though. I came on here using the thread for the right reasons. If anyone can go through my conversation and see how Parmenion's or Sean's response was helpful I would be delighted. You seem to be concerned about my reaction, but totally ignore the antecedant (what happened just prior to my reaction .. what caused this ridiculousness). I can maturely take the blame for defending myself and my craft and perhaps taking it too far but I bet you wont find Sean or Parmenion willing to admit their wrongs. |
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