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Xiqual Inner circle Upper left quadrant 4935 Posts 
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So true about misinterpretations! Also, sarcasm is almost impossible to do well in text.
Anyway, I understand where you are coming from. I also dislike being forced to buy because of limited supply and other nonsense. To me, as I have said before, this seems like a fun diversion. Nice to be discussing it with you, James Quote: On 2012-03-05 02:04, sirbrad wrote:
Still with the Chinese circus
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sirbrad Inner circle PA 2096 Posts
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One thing that makes it more exciting is that it is different, and leaves a lot to be discovered. All the effects may even be linked together somehow like a puzzle, who knows? If anything it is something new and different from all the other standard marketing out there. But I already bought a load of stuff recently that I wanted for a long time and need to go through so much material still. If there were more time and back issues I might try this, but the way they force it down your throat with the "now or never" pitch is also a turn off. Makes me not want to buy it even more. So there are a lot of factors involved. But I guess if you have disposeable money and don't care how it turns out it would be worth trying. I can afford it easily but I am just more picky about what I buy, and prefer to know what I am getting. But I may change my mind on this before April you never know.
The great trouble with magicians is the fact that they believe when they have bought a certain trick or piece of apparatus, and know the method or procedure, that they are full-fledged mystifiers. -- Harry Houdini
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Judah Vee Special user of the JV Naughty Vanish.... 884 Posts
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I guess that's why I bought into the project... I do have the disposable income and don't care how it turns out. However, if sirbrad and the others are right and it turns out badly, I'll eat crow. I'll will bow down and take my caning. But it won't stop me from making another purchase, bad or good. I have read all the posts and all the veiled attacks on some here are annoying at best. I have tried to remain positive and not attack anyone. I just have faith in the project. I will remain positive until I have no reason to....
-J-
I don't care how fast or slow you are.... As long as I am faster.. -J-
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Mr. Mystoffelees Inner circle I haven't changed anyone's opinion in 3623 Posts
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If it "turns our badly", Judah, I don't think you need to consider eating crow. Life is full of choices, and few of us are prescient. I don't let myself feel superior when I win at the casino, and I don't let myself feel foolish when I lose. I know the odds, and it's fun to play. I hope those of you who are "all in" have called it right, magic could use something good and exciting...
Also known, when doing rope magic, as "Cordini"
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Xiqual Inner circle Upper left quadrant 4935 Posts
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Well said Sir!
James Quote: On 2012-03-05 08:39, Mr. Mystoffelees wrote:
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writeall Special user Midland, Michigan 930 Posts
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Any idea on how secret the secrets will be? Someone was tracking membership numbers with an eye toward how many had signed up.
Is it less secret if 1000 are subscribed than if there are 200? I'm thinking Counterfeit Hollingworth (which is a great trick) and the evolution from "really secret, extremely limited" to "not so secret, not as limited" to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wIkAOBoSOs (which isn't meant to be an expose). It's great marketing already, but might be enhanced by limiting sign-ups. |
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Jim Sparx Inner circle Far Out, Texas 1144 Posts
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Someone posted, Kaufman I think, that they have already manufactured a years worth of apparatus and gimmicks. How would they know how much to manufacture if they are just now taking memberships and people are still signing on? Are they only taking a hundred people? Or what if they set their goal at 250 and only 100 signed up? That does not make good business sense that they have already made more than what they are going to distribute. Oh well, April is only a month away and I'll be watching my mailbox.
Et tu, Spartacus?
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Atom3339 Inner circle Spokane, WA 3242 Posts
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Judah, Crow AND caning? I'll share the popcorn!
(Yeah, you guessed it: Pop "Secret").
TH
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Jamie Ferguson Inner circle Alba Gu Brà th 3640 Posts
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I've just spoken to someone directly involved in the project and if what they said is true (and I have no reason to doubt them) this 'punt' will turn out to be worth far more then the risk involved in subscribing blindly.
Those who refuse to sign up on principle will be kicking themselves.
When the chips are down, the duvet is uncomfortable.
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Zombie Magic Inner circle I went out for a beer and now have 8733 Posts
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But I see your Real Secrets
Shining through I see your Real Secrets And that's why I love you So don't be afraid to let them show Your Real Secrets Real Secrets are beautiful, Like a rainbow...... |
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Ray Chelt Special user Changing the world with my 988 Posts
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On 2012-03-05 14:20, Jamie Ferguson wrote: One of the most hysterical things about this now is the sheer number of people who have spoken to somebody at Real Secrets and have the inside info. What was the old adage..tell one person and it isn't a secret anymore? Methinks the Real Secrets team might as well divulge all -- it can only increase sales. And enough with the "you'll be kicking yourselves" schtick. Whilst I hope that everybody who likes a bit of fun and mystery gets a real kick out of this lets not forget that you are paying $12 a trick...I don't think me having 24 $12 tricks is going to change my life. I also am struggling to think of anybody who has released 24 brand new, never before seen tricks, which are all eminently worth having. So by all means have a great time with this but don't worry about we folk who miss out, somehow I am sure we will survive. |
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Tom Jorgenson Inner circle LOOSE ANGLES, CALIFORNIA 4451 Posts
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From another aspect:
How many of the very greatest effects that you know or use could be taught in 2 sheets of paper or less? In examples of these, who's involved makes a great deal of difference. Times 12.
We dance an invisible dance to music they cannot hear.
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newguy Elite user 411 Posts
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Tom,
You mean tricks like Out of This World or Card Warp? |
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Tom Jorgenson Inner circle LOOSE ANGLES, CALIFORNIA 4451 Posts
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Yea, the game-changing stuff. Could be! You never know.
I'll roll the danm dice.
We dance an invisible dance to music they cannot hear.
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Magicsquared Inner circle 1262 Posts
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On 2012-02-19 06:24, Roslyn wrote: Was this question ever answered? |
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Xiqual Inner circle Upper left quadrant 4935 Posts
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I think Ben Franklin said "Three may keep a secret, if two of them are dead."
I'm not sure anyone needs to worry about life changing or missing out. This is just for fun. One thing I like is there is no "specific" hype. I always watch a demo, get excited, then my imagination goes crazy and I am almost always let down. My fault because I imagine a better trick than the one I buy. I am sure we all know the feeling "Aww man, ripped off AGAIN!" Real Secrets will be a surprise. I have no idea what to expect. WOO HOO!! James ps I am not trying to hype anything or say I know what is up. I don't. I am also not thumbing my nose at people that don't want to join. Quote: On 2012-03-05 15:29, Ray Chelt wrote:
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todsky Inner circle www.magicstore.ca 2354 Posts
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Aside from the one gimmick from Michael Weber, it seems to me that each monthly trick will be a set of instructions for one trick. So 12 trick instructions per year is $144, but a typical book of tricks which contains about 40 effects can be had for around $40. So this 12-trick Real Secrets 'book' in installments would need to be absolutely cutting-edge incredible to justify itself. But then again, one-trick DVD's are around $25, so I guess it's all relative.
Todsky's Magic Shop: over 15,000 tricks, books, DVD s and Card decks. www.magicstore.ca
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Xiqual Inner circle Upper left quadrant 4935 Posts
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First page of this thread;
"Physical props and instructions sent by First Class US Mail every month" James
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duanebarry Special user 883 Posts
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Those are notably not singular. Which does not mean that they WILL be plural, but the writer could easily have written the definitively singular "a prop" there -- and did not.
Also: "...you will get the feature and also items you may not understand but will find the secret to as time passes." So there's apparently a Feature item, which implies one or more other lesser items (props and/or routines -- it's ambiguous) each month as well. Although it was labeled as such in the big thread over at Genii, I'd be surprised if it's merely a single Trick Of The Month offering. |
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Xiqual Inner circle Upper left quadrant 4935 Posts
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That's what I was thinking Duane. I agree with Todsky too that it is not some bargain. As opposed to a book or even a DVD it is a bit higher priced.
James Quote: On 2012-03-06 00:09, duanebarry wrote:
Still with the Chinese circus
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