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Ed_Millis
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The spectator shuffles the deck. I write a prediction. We cut the cards. The prediction matches. (Hopefully the rountie surrounding these steps is not as boring as that sounds!!)

I see two ways to reveal that the prediction matches the selection:
-- Use the business card (or whatever) the prediction was written on as the marker for the selection
-- Write the prediction and set it aside, not to be touched until the selection is revealed

Which way sounds lke a stronger "moment" to see the prediction matching the selection? Does it depend on the immediate circumstances? What would you consider when choosing which method?

Ed
adamsmaye
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I think it is stronger to keep the prediction aside because it make the effect much stronger because you never touch it unil the end of the trick
Andy Young
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I agree that setting it aside is a very good idea. I have found that some people really believe that I never touched the paper, which makes it all the more impressive. Another way to do it is this way: Have them cut to the card and have them place the card on their forehead so that you can’t possibly see the card. Tell them about ESP or whatever mental phenomena that you like and then write your prediction. I do a trick that way and people really enjoy it.
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It depends slightly on the routine. It sounds like your question is more like "Open Prediction" vs. standard predictions. I prefer the standard prediction route since I think it makes it easier to focus the presentation on the moment of magic.
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Ed_Millis
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Quote:
On 2012-03-15 07:23, Dr. JK wrote:
It sounds like your question is more like "Open Prediction" vs. standard predictions.

I don't understand those two concepts and their differences? Can you explain a bit more, Jeff?

Ed
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Sure: Open Prediction is when you place a prediction out in plain view (open) before the spectator selects a card. That is, you may say, I think you'll select the Queen of Spades. Then traditionally, the spectator would deal the face-down deck one at a time face-up onto the table until they feel led to deal a face down card. So then there is one moment of discovery: turning over the face-down card to see if it matches the card you predicted all along which the spectator has known you predicted from the beginning (Queen of Spades in my example). The traditional prediction method is that you predict the value of a card, but don't show the spectator. The spectator selects their card, and you show both to match (two discoveries, sort-of).

The "effect" is the same (you predicted a card the spectator selects), but they require slightly different presentations. Maybe I missed the point of your original question, but I was seeing the above explanation as the difference between your two choices.
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Thanks, Jeff. You did see the meaning of my original post. I just didn't know what to call them. I do seem to favor the "open" prediction.

Ed
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Keeping the prediction aside is much stronger IMHO
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Alway go for the way you would do if you really could make the prediction. Would you use the written business card and put it "somehow" into the deck. I would write it openly down or just name it, spectators will cut -> Bingo
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I generally prefer to watch an open prediction. But sometimes, if the trick is too startling, I find the open prediction creates too much dissonance. The audience feels that something is too awry
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Use a Svengali deck.
Cut deck into 6 piles showing the bottom card of
each pile. This gives impression of all different
cards.
Have spectator eliminate 3 of the piles. Use
Doublelift to show top cards are different.
Now have 2 piles removed and repeat as above.
Remaining pile top card matches prediction.
Switch in deck after using matching deck prior.
HINT! Have matching card box defect on face of
both boxes.
I've used this for 50 years.
Carry 2 different Svengali decks to repeat effect.Is
Coin master
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