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Zombie Magic Inner circle I went out for a beer and now have 8733 Posts |
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mike storz Inner circle Orange, CT 1353 Posts |
I would love a review. Expensive so thinking twice about this one.
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mndude Special user 879 Posts |
I have both the UltraCinese and the Micro Psychic. At first I really liked the MP and HATED the UC, because I couldn't get the UC to work. The MP works very smoothly. In fact, in my opinion, it works too smoothly. The nut screws off so fast that it screams gaffed bolt more than telekinesis.
Everyone I've shown the MP trick to is impressed by it, but everyone also strongly suspects that it is a gaffed bolt. They suspect that there's just a pressure point or something that activates it. Since it is a fatter bolt, it is very conceivable that there might be something gaffed about it. |
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Acar Elite user 471 Posts |
I got one at Kreis's booth in Blackpool, and I've been loving it.
I was (and still am) a big fan of Ultracinese, but I hate being "hooked up" from head to toe. Even if I didn't mind, I already know I'm going to perform the one that can just slip in my pocket way more often. The nut does spin quite fast, but if you're concerned about it there are lots of great presentations for Micro Psychic that don't scream gaff, including completely hands off ones, like under a glass, or the beautiful "under-cover" method performed by Weber at Blackpool. My current preferred presentation is to have the spectator hold one hand over and one under the bolt so they actually can't see most of it, then at the tail end have them cup both hands and let it fall off the last 3-5mm by itself. Using their own imagination is more powerful I think. |
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mndude Special user 879 Posts |
What is the "under-cover" method?
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Acar Elite user 471 Posts |
He covered the nut and bolt with a napkin, then didn't go near it.
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Nat Special user 566 Posts |
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On 2012-03-06 11:10, Acar wrote: I have been very happy with Micro -- easy, effective and amazing closeup magic...everything can be examined! Nat |
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parmenion Inner circle Switzerland/Zürich 3988 Posts |
It looks interesting
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rowdymagi5 Inner circle Virginia 3616 Posts |
Noise seems to be the only issue. Even under a glass or other cover it is noisy.
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Failed Magician Inner circle Still working on the DL even after made 2100 Posts |
Can the nut goes the other way around? It is a bit too fast but it still look great.
Magic comes through perception. -HS
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Acar Elite user 471 Posts |
Rowdymagi5,
At first I thought mine made a little noise too, but after testing the bolt without a nut on it, I realized it was just the slight rattle of the nut spinning off the bolt. I think even if this was "real" magic, that sound would exist just by the nature of the 2 items being in contact. |
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jearnshaw New user 60 Posts |
This reminds me of a time my wife and I found one of those "gravity hills" where your car will roll up a hill. I was screaming "this is so cool." my wife was: "meh..so what?" This effect sort of leaves me on the "meh.." side. For those that use it, do most people really react strongly to a nut unscrewing from a bolt? I mean I know that type of thing doesn't happen by itself, however it is a "natural" thing for the nut/bolt combo.
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Failed Magician Inner circle Still working on the DL even after made 2100 Posts |
Oh, and how safe the method so the audience won't "start" it accidentally? Tricks like this will make them to grab the nut and bolt straightaway and play around with it. They might even put the nut back to the bolt and hold it at the same angle or way we did, etc.
Magic comes through perception. -HS
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Acar Elite user 471 Posts |
Failed Magician,
The nut can only spin off. Not too bad though, since it couldn't get *on* the bolt by itself anyway, and simply spinning "further on" would be a little anti-climactic. And there's virtually 0% chance they'd start it accidentally. PM me if you need any clarification. |
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simcoscor Inner circle montreal 1140 Posts |
Find more about Micro Psychic HERE
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Zombie Magic Inner circle I went out for a beer and now have 8733 Posts |
Oh, I thought it was just released.
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simcoscor Inner circle montreal 1140 Posts |
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On 2012-03-06 12:29, Zombie Magic wrote: You're right, just released in North America... but available in Japan since last november. Micro Psychic rocks! |
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Titanas V.I.P. 1995 Posts |
Both Micro psychic and Weber's routine are amazing.
I even tried it on my wife while she was holding it and she still have no clue how its working. I m so glad I got this one. Best regards, Titanas
Product Developer @ Murphys Magic Supplies
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Leonardo Milanesi New user 30 Posts |
Hello everyone, this is Leonardo Milanesi.
A long time passed since my last message here, so I have many things to say. Firstly I want to say that I really sorry for what happened with Ultracinese. As I use to say, chinese are not guilty, I am, cause everyone knows that they always do the same thing, they copy, no matter what we think about it or what we do about it. I knew about that fact, when I invented Ultracinese. the problem is that unless you have resources to pay for patents worldwide and to pay lawyers to care of you when, even with the patent, you find chinese selling your product, then the piracy will be a fact to deal with, this is not avoidable. I believe that the main problem was a bad planing, which was caused by an excess of insecurity and lack of experience, combined with my will to make things fast and my perfectionism. I remember as it was yesterday when I read the first complaints about the noise. That was so frustrating! And became worse as the time passed and I realized how difficult was to care of that apparently simple issue. Then the complaints about the power of the unit took place. A dilemma! Cause if you increase the power you automatically increase the noise level. At the same time, I was already reading about the set up issue, and thinking what could be done about that too. When I saw the chinese copy and how it was made, my mind was so busy trying to solve the issues of the product, I was so obsessed with the idea of improve the device, that when I saw the copy I automatically started to analyze it, searching for pros and cons, I started to compare the copy and the original. As I use to say, I was more concerned with the magicians than with the chinese. The idea that the copy would not do the trick never crossed my mind, never. Ultracinese is a simple device. Too simple in my opinion, the value is on the principle, not in complexity. I think that when you realize that you can render a mechanical engineer confused and lost, with a magic trick that involves only an ordinary nut and bolt, then the value of the trick become evident. We live in a world where information is on the reach of any child, and that fact alone is already enough to create some very embarassing situations. I am not saying that everytime you perform a trick the spectator will know how it's done, I don't think that the laymen spend their free time searching how magic tricks are done, and if they do, I think that a good amount of curiosity need to be accumulated before they go to google. If you have good misdirection, if you are confident, and if you can eliminate the same old guesses that laymen say when they try to find out the secrets, then it will not make difference for the audience if you are using the original device or the chinese copy, the spectator want to have his eyes delighted, that's all! Piracy always existed, unfortunately, but making judgements about it, doesn't eliminate it. Is it a threat? Ofcourse it is! I was a direct victim of it, so I can say that, but if I spend my days hating chinese, I will probably be stuck on that hate and the chances of creating something new in future will be smaller. Good ideas are copied, maybe some bad ones too, but mostly the good ones, and I will always believe that imitation is part of human behavior, and that's' why is so hard to get rid of it. Some people may be thinking why I am saying all that, and maybe someone can suspect that I am here to criticize Mr.Nakashima Kengo (Kreis), or any magic store that is selling the Micro Psychic. No, I am not here to do that. Firstly because I understand that if Mr. Nakashima decided to build his device, he was not assuming that he invented the effect. The same way I didn't assume that the idea of animate a nut on a bolt was mine. There already was effects that produced this type of animation when I invented Ultracinese, and at the beginning I actually thought that I had just discovered the method of one of those existing effects. Only after some research I found out that I created a different principle. And also, because the idea of putting everything inside a more thick diameter bolt is not new to me, I remember that the same week I discovered the method for Ultracinese, I asked to a mechanical engineer to drill a large bolt and I tested that concept and it worked quite well, so why I gave up of that version? That's simple, in my opinion that would make obvious that you are using a gaffed bolt, that's all. I am really happy that Mr. Nakashima invested his time and skills on this one. From a pratical point of view: no sleeves, no wires, no set up... Sounds great! So I don't think that this device need to be compared with Ultracinese directly, because you need to decide what will be your priority when you perform the nut and bolt effect: If you use Ultracinese, the context will allow you to valorize the aspect of giving the nut and bolt as souvenir, and eliminate the magnetism of the equation, that's good. And with Micro Psychic, the context will valorize other aspects of your presentation, you will not be wearing long sleeves, nothing on your wrists, a bigger nut and bolt, examinable, etc... That's also good. So, about the Micro Psychic, I think it's a good bet from the pratical point of view, even if you can not give the bolt as souvenir, I still think the concept is worth, cause it's highly pratical. I spent the last two years dedicating my time to the project of two new versions of Ultracinese, and I am almost finishing my work here. It's taking long because I am working alone. and it was difficult to get support here in Brazil. What I can say for now, is that I solved all the issues of the gimmick, but only you guys will tell me if I did a good job or not, as soon as I am able to release the new device. Since the piracy problem, my only goal was to fix what was wrong and to improve what was right. But fortunately I was able to go a little farther and create new ways to perform the effect, that I hope you all will like. I hope that the magicians who bought the first version can be more glad with the next, and that the magicians who do not have it, can think again about getting it. I think every magic trick can always be improved, reinvented. Ultracinese will also receive a new name, which is not actually new, because it was my original idea for the name since the first day. At the last minute I accepted the Ultracinese name suggestion because the dealler who was helping me, adviced me to give a more "brazilian name" to the product. That wasn't a wise decision. So, I think a improved gimmick deserves an new name. Congratulations on your gimmick Mr. Nakashima, I wish you success. I am anxious to play with it! Maybe some persons will ask if I think that what Mr. Nakashima did was to copy me. My answer is: He produced a variation, and it will probably please a large group of magicians, he is not being redundant or making a poor copy of my gimmick, he is innovating. Chinese copied me, Mr. Nakashima created something. Great Job! If any of you have the Ultracinese and need any tips or help with your unit, I'll help. Any questions or suggestions regarding my new gimmick, please let me know, Sorry for keep quiet for so long, Sorry if I failed with some of you, I didn't do that on purpose, Sorry for the bad english, Best Regards, Leonardo Milanesi. |
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Leonardo Milanesi New user 30 Posts |
*A thought about the souvenir issue:
I was thinking... Ok, If the Micro Psychic bolt can not be given as souvenir, it doesn't mean that you can not give a souvenir at all. Put yourself in the place of the spectator, firstly he/she is not waiting to receive a souvenir, so here's my insight: The idea is to make they believe in your PK powers, right? And all the responsibility of doing this well is yours, it's all a matter of create the right feelings on the spectator, so if you make them think that they are crucial to the success of the experience, if you link them to your magic, they will not feel fooled, they will feel special, and will never forget that minutes with you, because they were part of that. Ok so what I suggest? My idea is simple, you have a special bolt, ok, you can not let them keep it without switches, ofcourse, but what to say about the nut? The Micro Psychic nut is ordinary, am I right? Remember, the spectator is not expecting a souvenir, but expecting a special moment of astonishment. With good presentation you can provide that. The souvenir is a bonus, and in my opinion, when magicians perform PK effects, mind effects, they should not give props as souvenir without stage a little resistance when doing this, do you understand? They need to feel that they deserve that souvenir, because their energy was part of the demonstration. That will add much more value to the souvenir,I mean, if for example, you give the impression that the coin you bent is not a ordinary coin anymore, that it has a new energy on it from now on, they will keep that coin forever, surely! They will never forget about you! But, in the other hand, if you just drop a souvenir in their hands and go to the next trick, they will only feel fooled, and I don't think that this is our goal. When I was child and went to a birthday party, everytime a magician asked me to "help him" in his performance, I felt so special! People grow up and that mechanism keep exactly the same. In my opinion there are two kinds of people: The ones who do magic and the ones who want to do magic, I mean, everybody want to be able to do magic, and if you can provide this sensation to your spectator, you will make his/her day. Most spectators have afraid of helping the magician, because they already expect to be fooled, and this will often happen in front of other people, right? Only magicians have this power, of raise someone's spirit and humor, so why to do the opposite? Back to the Souvenir subject: I said all that, because I am sure that if you go to a hardware store and buy some nuts, they will be the perfect souvenir to the Micro Psychic. Just focus your and their attention on that nut, because Is the nut that will move, and not the bolt, remember? Let the girl hold the nut for few seconds inside her hand, while you explain that she is passing her energy to that nut. If the nut is made of brass, the magnet will be useful to proof that magnets will not be involved. When she screw the nut on the bolt, you can explain that the nut is now charged with her energy, then you ask her to bring her hand close to the bolt and Voila! Her energy is doing the magic! Let the nut drop in her hand and she will be speechless, trust me. Then you could finish the presentation saying something like: "" I don't do this very often, but this time I prefer you keep this nut for you, because it's full of your energy. Is more appropriated that you keep it as souvenir, so you will always remember what you was able to do with your mind today."" Remember, this hypothetical female spectator saw a NUT moving, not a bolt, and that was after she hold the nut for several seconds inside her hand. You created a justification to her to believe that the role of the bolt is secondary, irrelevant. Well, now you can give a cheap, easily avaliable, but still special souvenir! All I said above is my personal opinion, just one idea and my thoughts about my point of view regarding souvenirs. I am sure that lots of better ideas will came up here in the Café. Best Regards, Leonardo. |
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