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I'm still looking for a reference in print that describes Harry Houdini actually performing the cups and balls. Ironic, isn't it!
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I thought that was Vernon's quote, and Nenson's book says he used a doughnut.
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It is not in print that Houdini performed the cups and balls it was in a letter to a private individual.
I saw the letter at Ted Coruther's magic shop in the early 90's in Toledo, Ohio . There also a picture in the letter with Houdini and an old set of Tin cups.
Ted passed away and the letters all went missing from his shop.

Hopefully they will turn up again sometime.
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On 2013-08-12 14:48, Magic.J.Manuel wrote:
I thought that was Vernon's quote, and Nenson's book says he used a doughnut.


Nenson?
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Ouch, swatted again!

Benson.

Thanks so much for nitpicking my minutia. Smile
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Or is that bitpicking your binutia? Smile
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On 2013-08-13 09:57, Magic.J.Manuel wrote:
Ouch, swatted again!

Benson.

Thanks so much for nitpicking my minutia. Smile


No swat intended. Genuinely confused.
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Hello there.
My name is Nate (pardon the title on this account- someone made it for me and I don't know how to change it. Oh, and by the by, first post) and I personally don't use final loads in my basic routine. I work as a busker and my first cups were "Finders" that couldn't hold anything bigger than a super bounce ball. Necessity is the mother of invention, after all.
My (basic)routine is based around the three shell game or, at the very least, the PERCIEVED three shell game- where I throw a ball in the air and it appears under any cup called for (That's my crowd gatherer.) Then I have balls appear under each cup. Then I do the whole "Ball penetrating through the cup" bit that has been written in every magic book known to man which I finish with Garcia's elevator move. Then I "get rid of the balls" and have them all appear beneath the cups, vanish them again and have all three appear under the center cup. Then people pay me, continue walking and I'm all set to perform it again.
For bigger tips, I start going fancier and having fun with it- having the balls "Teleport", having the audience hold onto a cup and doing a "breakout" move (something that I borrowed shamelessly from the three shell game) as my big finish. The way this works is I have two balls set on the table. I have the cups set on top of them by two audience members. I set one ball in a spectator's hand. I put the cup on top of it. The two balls vanish from under the two cups on the table and appear under the cup that the spectator is holding.
I've found that it sometimes impresses more than final loads. Believe me, I've tried both.
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On 2012-03-10 02:38, JESmagic wrote:
Furthermore, remember that MANY laymen already know the basic principle of the cups and balls because, at one time or another, they got a cheap set of plastic cups-whether in a magic kit, or at the local magic store. Ironically...in my former days as a performer--when I was in my teenage years and used to work in the magic shop at Walt Disney World, I sold literally thousands of sets of plastic cups. I demonstrated only the simplest routine--making the balls penetrate the cups (because it required no sleights).


Your whole post was great to me, a returning neophyte to the C&B. What you say here is absolutely true, and it it is why coming back to the C&B is intimidating. We assume people know how it works.
The truth is, if you go even one step beyond the self-working part of the trick, your viewers are in unchartered territory and the fun begins. Once a skill set gets involved even those that had the plastic versions as children will be flummoxed by what begins to happen, and the final loads will be icing on the cake, and delicious icing at that.
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