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nix225
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Have you guys ever run the sound out of the unit and into a powered speaker like the Stagemate or JBL Eon? What kind of results did you get? I'm curious since I'm 99% sure I'll be going with a Sekaku for my smaller classroom shows (because of its' size, weight, and convenience), but I'm wondering if I can run the sound out through a powered speaker for assembly shows. There's virtually no music involved, so I could lose a little quality, but I'd like the most versatile system possible. Any thoughts out there?
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Why would you want to run the sound out of a Sekaku into a StageMate or an Eon? I have no experience with a Sekaku but I own a pair of JBL Eon G2 10 speakers and I should be getting my new StageMate tomorrow.

The StageMate has everything the Sekaku has except for the built-in wireless. It has more inputs, plus equalization. The JBL doesn't have equalization nor the built-in wireless but you can still connect a mic directly into it. (I've done it several times with great results.)

I'm not trying to be critical. I'm just not sure what you would be trying to accomplish using the Sekaku through a powered speaker.

Please clarify and I'll see if I can be of any assistance.
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Magicmikey:

Please post a review of the Stagemate once you receive it; I'm seriously thinking of getting one. Thanks.

Ron
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Hello Ron,

Assuming that nothing unexpected happens, I'll be using the StageMate on Thursday of this week (Oct. 2). I'll post a review of it by the weekend. (I'll set up a new topic on it.)

Michael
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Michael,

The reason why I asked is I'm trying to pare down my equipment as much as possible for my smaller presentations, but still have an easy way to cover any mid-sized gigs. I've gone from a full-size van to a Ford Explorer which required me to build collapsible performing tables and stands for my animals (performing parrots) and doesn't leave much room left over.

I prefer not to haul my current PA because of it's weight and size and while I realise the Sekaku is nowhere near as good as a Stagemate or Eon, the fact that it weighs less than 5 pounds, takes up 3/4 of a cubic foot, and has the built-in wireless (one thing less to carry), and should suffice for 100 or so people is quite appealing.

Since the Sekaku will have a permanent storage area built into one of tables, it will probably be traveling with me to every gig. Since it's already on board, and has the wireless set up and ready to go, I thought (and I could be really wrong here), that the easiest way to increase the volume for those gigs of 200-400 people would be with a powered speaker.

I could just run the sound through the speaker, but then I need to use my wireless set-up instead of the Sekaku's. Not a big deal of course, but it's one more thing to do and carry, and I'm trying to pack as light as possible.

If you or anyone out there have any ideas or suggestions, please let me know.

Mark
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Hello Mark,

You are correct. If you put the Sekaku through a powered speaker, you will indeed increase the volume considerably. I checked the Florida Magic site and confirmed that the Sekaku has a line out jack to connect to another system.

One thing you will need to be careful of is gain staging. Since you have an amplifier in the Sekaku and an amplifier in the speaker, you have to balance the volumes on both units to avoid distortion. In other words, you don't want the volume set a lot higher on one unit over the other. They should be close to the same setting.

The only question I would have is whether the Sekaku will sound good through another amplifier. My gut feeling is that you would get a better sound with a separate mic connected directly to the powered speaker but, if the Sekaku sounds good enough on it's own, then you'll probably be satisfied with that set up.

Now, here's the part where I muddy up the water! Since the StageMate operates off of a 12 volt battery, you can probably run a wireless receiver off it, as well. You would need someone who knows electronics to put a jack into the StageMate to tap the power source.

I had a music store do that very thing on a Peavy Solo I owned for a while. It used 8 D-size batteries (total of 12 volts.) All the wireless units I have worked with used the same end on the power supply and they all ran off of 12 volt power sources. It worked with an Audio Technica wireless, a Shure wireless and a Sennheiser wireless.

What's the plus to that? You velcro the receiver to the StageMate and it becomes a complete DC unit. Built in mixer, amplifier, speaker and wireless. It's definitely a lot bigger than a Sekaku but it's a really easy set up. (Remember, with the idea you have, you'll need to run a cable from the Sekaku in your table to the speaker.)

Hope that helps some.

Michael
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Interesting idea Michael, I would have never thought to convert my regular wireless to dc. Definitely something to consider. Do let us know how the Stagemate works out for you, I'm particularly interested in how large an area it will cover. Thanks.

Mark
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