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Oh, I haven't a problem with that. At least in this case, knowing Mark Mason's and Bob Swadling's products as I do.

However some folks feel, for example, that no gimmicked coin/coin set is worth buying unless it comes from Todd or Jamie, etc. And sometimes in such cases "a bit" is worth a lot more than $20!!

A clearer example: I am perfectly satisfied to perform Coins Across routines that didn't require a purchase of $600 - $800 for "coins"!!

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Jim
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On 2012-03-22 14:16, J-Mac wrote:
Oh, I haven't a problem with that. At least in this case, knowing Mark Mason's and Bob Swadling's products as I do.

However some folks feel, for example, that no gimmicked coin/coin set is worth buying unless it comes from Todd or Jamie, etc. And sometimes in such cases "a bit" is worth a lot more than $20!!

A clearer example: I am perfectly satisfied to perform Coins Across routines that didn't require a purchase of $600 - $800 for "coins"!!

Thanks!

Jim


I agree with you to a point. I have seen some of MB's videos with regular old Morgans (no gaffs) and his work is pretty impressive. The gaffs certainly do not make the magician. But if you have seen the Louis Piedrahita video with the Lassen China bit (posted on another thread) and then compare Lassen's version with Kennedy's version of the gaff (I have both), I think you might agree that the beauty of the Lassen coins and how flawlessly they work certainly does significantly improve the overall presentation. I realize not everyone likes the infinity edge, but I do and only Lassen does that for now.

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Alan
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The Lassen Infinity edge is gorgeous...I have 2 coin sets that have it currently...its amazing how deceptive it is!
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I love bagged for life routien with a s#@lt coin.
but have had such a great time performing coin thru
glass with the miracle coin.i also like using it for
coin thru glass table.
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On 2012-04-27 20:43, bowers wrote:
I love bagged for life routien with a s#@lt coin.
but have had such a great time performing coin thru
glass with the miracle coin.i also like using it for
coin thru glass table.
todd


Hi Todd. When you say "coin thru glass with the miracle coin", are you talking about the "Miracle Coin Unique" that this thread is about? Or a split coin?

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Jim
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I'm guessing that Todd is talking about the coin unique, neting them above the tale and pulling out the duplicate below.
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On 2012-04-28 07:52, cupsandballsmagic wrote:
I'm guessing that Todd is talking about the coin unique, neting them above the tale and pulling out the duplicate below.


OK... not sure what you said. Is that "nesting"? I got "table". I've done CTTT using magnetic coins though never with a coin unique. Interesting - I have to think about that.

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Ha guys
I'm talking about the coin unique
or miracle coin.both are the the same.
I have both.i do a coin thru glass table effect.
I lay both the half and the quarter on a glass table.
lay my hand on top of them.put my other hand under the table.
a little movement from both sides. take my hand of the top of the table
and only the half is left the quarter has penatrated thru the table.
but I also like the effect mark mason does with the drinking glass also.
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I have both "Coin Unique" and "Miracle Coin Unique". I like miracle coin unique much better.

Coin unique can be handed out, but the back of the coin doesn't "look" as good to my eye(I collect coins). Also, the back center of the coin will rotate if handled by a curious spectator.

Miracle coin unique is much, much closer looking to a real coin on the back side of the coin. Also, the back center of the coin will not rotate if you try to rotate it.

Miracle coin unique has now replaced my coin unique. I think it's a much better coin to hand out to the spectator for inspection.

If you're not concerned with spectators handling the coin, then go with the cheaper coin.
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Algebraic, thanks for the review!

Jim
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I have Coin Unique, but not this one. Watching the video, they look basically the same. With the routine I came up with, you hand the spectator the half, and have never been burned as all the attention is on the duplicate quarter that I produce. It basically looks like you are spending the extra $20 for the dvd of routines (you can get Coin Unique for $55 shipped from Stevens Magic).

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Bob Swadling - a true craftsman.

That said, I just think it's incredible that a bloke who decries other manufacturers for ripping off his 'flipper coin', has no problem copying Eddie Gibson's 'Coin Unique' principle (even down to 'borrowing' the name within this coin's marketing).

Double standards in magic? Never! Smile
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On 2012-05-01 06:16, Merc Man wrote:
Bob Swadling - a true craftsman.

That said, I just think it's incredible that a bloke who decries other manufacturers for ripping off his 'flipper coin', has no problem copying Eddie Gibson's 'Coin Unique' principle (even down to 'borrowing' the name within this coin's marketing).

Double standards in magic? Never! Smile


I have to say, I was inclined to think the same thing until I found out about the significant improvements, which address some common complaints with Gibson's work. If someone wants to step up the quality (as opposed to creating inferior copies of effects), I am not sure that is something that I want to discourage.

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Apparently you folks don't realize that Bob Swadling also lays claim to being the originator of the Coin Unique!

With one of Bob's effects I purchased I received a separate DVD about Bob Swadling, his magic and history. On it Mark Mason conducts a rather lengthy interview with Bob and during the course of that interview, Mark mentioned something about using the "coin unique" concept in one of Bob's effects and then stops and says that he probably shouldn't mention "coin unique" to him. Bob just gives him a sidelong glance - kind of a "dirty look". The implication strong that Bob was the creator.

I haven't read anything else that expands on that. I think the DVD might have come with my Triception set.

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Interesting point Jim.

As far as I can remember back, I think that the Gibson Coin Unique came onto the market around 1974. David Nixon was the first person that I ever saw perform with one on T.V.

Bob Swadling used to make a lot of tricks for Ken Brooke in the early 1970's - but I can't remember any of ken's effects that incorporated a coin unique. When Ken bought up the magic stocks of Fred Lowe (around 1969?), there were a lot of coin/metal items but again, nothing springs to mind that mirrored one.

So that's a mystery then! If it was being manufactured pre-74 (or the Gibson version) I wonder who was selling it?

That said, and for a couple of reasons (that it's probably not the place to go into here), I now take anything that Mark Mason says with a pinch of salt.
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Yeah, I did a little research - only as far as online search engines and my not-so-extensive magic library could take me - into the origins of the Coin Unique but I couldn't really find much about it. I definitely did not find Bob Swadling's name associated with it other than this latest offering from JB Magic. I need to rewatch that DVD to see exactlly what was said. However I did get the impression that the name "Coin Unique" annoyed Bob S. so perhaps he had a similar gimmick that was called by another name.

Jim
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Folks: Just wanted to say thanks to all for this thread. I'm on Mark Mason's JB Magic website right now trying to decide whether or not to buy miracle coin unique. The info in this thread is extremely helpful to me in making that decision. Thanks!
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