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MField2000
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Hi Angelo! Great to see you here.

You've invented some of my all-time favourite magic, including "Out of Order" and "Mini Morphosis". But the danger is that some audiences might perceive these as puzzles. I know you've invented some very, very clever puzzles as well (you've fooled me with them!), but how does one make effects using clever props transcend being puzzles and transform them into magic? (This is a problem faced by stage illusionists as well.)

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Hi Matt!

Thanks for asking me that question.

It is a tough one but I think the answer is in the presentation. You can make any prop or effect give off a different perception depending on how you introduce it and present it to your audience. When I perform Out of Order I present it more as a puzzle. I don't mind that. When Ian Rowland performed Out of Order on TV, he presented it as a demonstration between cause and effect and what happens to one set of cards affects the other set.

As you say there is a danger (which may be a harsh word to use) that propy magic is seen as a puzzle but most audiences deep down DO want to know how tricks are done. They are baffled and puzzled by what they have seen. Yes you can see wonderful stories and presentations of effects to make the moment a more magical experience but there is a place for puzzling type magic. Also I definitely think magicians CAN get away with unusual props as that is what is expected from us. We shouldn't just stick to everyday objects. What is wrong with producing a note from a brass bill tube or vanishing a dove in a brightly decorated box? We can get away with it.

I (personally speaking) don't think it is a bad thing if an audience perceives a trick to be more puzzling or a puzzle. If it makes them think and leaves them with a confused after impression (which both puzzles and magic do), then all is good.

See you at The Circle Smile

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Hi Angelo,

First, please let me join Paul Vigil in welcoming you here, I've also admired the raw and refined cleverness of your creations, and I hope to meet you in person someday soon.

Second, I'll second your faith in presenting wonderful puzzles as puzzles. There's a time and a place for presentations such as this, and they can fit in more often than most magicians appreciate. After all, one could say that Robert Harbin presented many of his effects this way, to great success. The Zig Zag Girl, for instance. And I would argue that Robert Houdin's automatons were also presented in that spirit. Those guys knew what they were doing.

Thanks for joining us.
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It seems as if unusual props (as well as unmotivated movements and odd handling) in magic performances pass as being part of the "crystals and rituals" aspect of making magic happen. Have you considered this in developing the handing of your effects?
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I agree with Angelo and Curtis. I think there are times when using something which appears odd to a layperson (the Okito Box comes to mind) is okay and actually adds to the mystery of the effect and takes much of the heat off the magician himself. Keep up the great work Angelo. Smile
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Hi Curtis!
Thank you for your warm welcome! I saw you lecture at The Magic Circle. I should have introduced myself then. Doh!


Hi Dragonash!
No I haven't considered it. It hasn't crossed my mind. I think the audience just take for granted what you do and how you do it is for the sake of achieving the effect. Again, we can get away with so much because we are magicians and magicians so odd things no? Smile


Hi Steve!
I agree. An ornate mystical box or special cup can indeed add to the presentation and experience in a magic trick. Thanks again for asking me to do this. Am having fun!
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