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blackeagle Veteran user 324 Posts 
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Here is something interesting. I don't know if anyone else has posted this but here we go anyways.
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the dealer Regular user las vegas 188 Posts
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That's funny....i know a couple of the guys on there.....
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iamslow Inner circle Proffessional Slacker 2001 Posts
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The chipping skills are terrible.... Also thumb chipping?? It almost looks like they got butter fingers by the way the chips are being dropped all over the place.... I know magicians that do better jobs...
"Everyone has a plan till they get punched in the face" Mike Tyson
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16543 Posts
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I see another film there of them sorting cards but is there one of them shuffling and dealing poker?
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acesover Special user I believe I have 821 Posts
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I thought they were quite accomplished as they were not just stacking chips. They were given chips of different demonations and asked to count and vefify them and restack them. Some were not perfect but were under a lot of pressure. I am sure they operte slower at the table and are much more precise. No one missed the count.
Neat find Blackeagle.
If I were to agree with you. Then we would both be wrong. As of Apr 5, 2015 10:26 pm I have 880 posts. Used to have over 1,000
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NFS Regular user 186 Posts
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"A gambler without a system is as a ship without a compass."
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Tony45 Veteran user 384 Posts
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On 2012-03-28 20:46, iamslow wrote: I was thinking the same thing : Thumb Busters ! lol Let me see them do picks off multiple stacks, two handed and push them off, then I might take notice. Maybe run down different colors two handed also, stuff like that. What theyre doing is nothing. You guys want to see real hands ? Try to find a crap game going full blast with a crew that's good, then you will see something. |
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iamslow Inner circle Proffessional Slacker 2001 Posts
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On 2012-03-29 02:14, Tony45 wrote: Tony45, I guarantee, none of those dealers deal Roulette or Dice, that's for sure... I can't believe doing fills is one of the events for these olympic games...
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jackouille07 Regular user France 110 Posts
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You guys want to see real hands ? Try to find a crap game going full blast with a crew that's good, then you will see something. Or find a Roulette Française table... Roulette Française is beautyfully dealt.... |
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iamslow Inner circle Proffessional Slacker 2001 Posts
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On 2012-03-29 10:51, jackouille07 wrote: It all depends on the dealer... But it is a thing of beauty watching a "good" dealer dealing a full game...
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jackouille07 Regular user France 110 Posts
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On 2012-03-30 04:36, iamslow wrote: Totaly agree with you iamslow. But Roulette Francaise is little different than "standart" roulette, the table is different, the chips are differents they don't cut the chips but spread them, the rules are little different too and the game is dealt by 3 croupiers. Here is a pics of french chips: http://www.casinoweb.org/mises-et-gains-......481.html And here, the first table is a classique roulette table (you don't need the rake and it's french chips) and 2nd and 3rd pics are Roulette Francaise tables: http://www.larnaque.fr/tables/roulette Jackouille |
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iamslow Inner circle Proffessional Slacker 2001 Posts
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Jack, I am aware of roulette francais, although ive never dealt this version, I was shown by a friend that dealt in europe... When it comes to roulette, the european dealers kick *** but when it comes to dice or cards(poker) the north american dealers rock...I also know some south american roulette dealers that are amazing roulette dealers... Its sad though because good dealers are becoming less and less...
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NFS Regular user 186 Posts
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I'm interested in seeing Roulette Francais being dealt. If anyone has footage they could share I'd really appreciate it.
Jack, you say the chips are spread in that game instead of cutting. Can you elaborate on that? Are you talking about putting the 1st finger on top and pressing down as you glide the stack backward? I think the croupiers call it "penciling."
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iamslow Inner circle Proffessional Slacker 2001 Posts
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On 2012-03-30 18:13, NFS wrote: NFS, Yes I think he meant pencilling as well..
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NFS Regular user 186 Posts
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So for example when breaking down a stack of 20, they'll pencil out 4 rows of 5? Seems like a waste of time. I don't think I understand this correctly, especially considering the typical high payouts of roulette.
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iamslow Inner circle Proffessional Slacker 2001 Posts
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NFS, in roulette, you don't have to break down a stack of 20... 1 stack is allways 20 chips, so to pay 35 units, you would bring out 2 stacks(40 chips) then pencil 5 from one of the stacks and send out the rest...
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jackouille07 Regular user France 110 Posts
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Roulette Francaise is disapearing... only 5 tables left in France.... Very sad... Roulette Francaise is the hardest games to deal in France (we don't have craps table in france, or maybe just 1 at Deauville, not sure) because there is no color chips (only cash value chips) the croupier must remember who have bet and how much on the winning number, imagine with a full table...
To see Roulette francaise being delt, maybe some scenes in some old movies, I can't give you a title at the moment but I'll make somes research. And no, I don't mean pencilling (but the result is the same), I don't know the english term. (maybe just "spreading") Here is some pictures when counting the chips before the table open: http://www.croupiers.fr/croupier/albumphotos/index.php |
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NFS Regular user 186 Posts
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Jack, I understand what you mean now.
I'd love to see the game in action. It would be great if you could locate some footage. Quote:
On 2012-03-30 21:54, iamslow wrote: Makes sense - Just the occasional brain fart. I think I recall seeing some dealers break down the stack of 20 though. Might have been a break-in I guess, or just my bad memory.
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jackouille07 Regular user France 110 Posts
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In the movie "la baie des anges" you can see Jeanne Moreau who play Roulette Francaise, but if I well remember, you don't really see how the games is dealt...
http://www.cinema-francais.fr/les_films/......nges.htm |
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16543 Posts
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Jackouille
The French Connection -Casino Royal - Chemmy and so on; The eyes in the walnut face held his. "I am the head of the Union Corse." The Union Corse! More deadly, and perhaps even older than the Unione Siciliano, the Mafia. Bond knew that it controlled most organized crime throughout metropolitan France and her colonies—protection rackets, smuggling, prostitution, and the suppression of rival gangs. —Ian Fleming, On Her Majesty's Secret Service THE Union Corse, an organization that originated in the parched hills of Corsica but is today centered in Marseille, rules more in fact than even James Bond imagined in fiction. Now over 70 and based in London, McKew said the idea originated in card-altering techniques developed by the Union Corse, a gang from Corsica. “The cards were bent by running them through a roller. They came out ever so slightly changed afterwards,” he said. Expert card readers could identify slight bends in the corners of face cards and tell high cards from low cards. This gave them a vital edge in chemin de fer, which is a form of baccarat, the game of choice of Fleming’s secret agent creation, James Bond. “The scam itself was brilliant because it was based on simple mathematics, plus psychology,” said Burke, now 82. He said they took care to ensure card readers weren’t spotted. “We only operated the Edge once a month or at most three times a fortnight.” Burke said the Big Edge would allow them to win 60 times for every 40 times they lost, compared with 49 wins versus 51 losses on merit. “It would be certain we took £500,000, over £10m [12.5m] in today’s money,” Burke said. McKew said they may have taken twice that. “It was a colossal amount. The Earl of Derby lost £40,000 one night. You could buy a new Jag for £1,200,” he said. “Some of the lords lost fortunes.” -The Hustlers
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