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StJohn
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I just want to know if to ask questions and have conversations about readings here or maybe somewhere else?
Thx.
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Here. Plenty of knowledgeable readers post here. I have learnt from them.
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Actually, I would suggest that Inner Thoughts is more appropriate since, unlike Penny, it is not publicly accessible or searchable.
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Agree with cassidy:
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But a worthy question!

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But a worthy question!

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Indeed!
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I think it is.
As does Ted Anneman.

But let me be clear mentalism is not mental magic.

It is not what my buddy jim Sissy sells for the guy he services.

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Corrinda amd Mann also find it Mentalism.
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Right on J I'm that's why Ted called his book Practical MENTAL MAGIC Smile

And Yes Readings are Mentalism ( the hardest to develop)

And Mentalism is one of a branch of Magic

And all mentalists are Magicians

Respectfully to all who will disagree

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On 2012-04-01 21:00, mrkmarik wrote:
Right on J I'm that's why Ted called his book Practical MENTAL MAGIC Smile

And Yes Readings are Mentalism ( the hardest to develop)

And Mentalism is one of a branch of Magic

And all mentalists are Magicians

Respectfully to all who will disagree

Marc



Not sure how mentalism can be magic.

Since magic is the *** child of the and bumbler idiots who wish they could do the deal.

Has that not allways been the truth and what the magic-o boys rail against ?

Also let us be clear P.M.M. was not a product of
Ted A's. It was a product to be pitched for cash.
Not unlike what Ostlind and Sissy do.

Good to have that set down on the line.


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On 2012-04-01 21:22, Jim-Callahan wrote:
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On 2012-04-01 21:00, mrkmarik wrote:
Right on J I'm that's why Ted called his book Practical MENTAL MAGIC Smile

And Yes Readings are Mentalism ( the hardest to develop)

And Mentalism is one of a branch of Magic

And all mentalists are Magicians

Respectfully to all who will disagree

Marc



Not sure how mentalism can be magic.

Since magic is the *** child of the and bumbler idiots who wish they could do the deal.

Has that not allways been the truth and what the magic-o boys rail against ?

Also let us be clear P.M.M. was not a product of
Ted A's. It was a product to be pitched for cash.
Not unlike what Ostlind and Sissy do.

Good to have that set down on the line.


J I'm
You are funny!!!!
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On 2012-04-01 21:22, Jim-Callahan wrote:
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On 2012-04-01 21:00, mrkmarik wrote:
Right on J I'm that's why Ted called his book Practical MENTAL MAGIC Smile

And Yes Readings are Mentalism ( the hardest to develop)

And Mentalism is one of a branch of Magic

And all mentalists are Magicians

Respectfully to all who will disagree

Marc



Not sure how mentalism can be magic.

Since magic is the *** child of the and bumbler idiots who wish they could do the deal.

Has that not allways been the truth and what the magic-o boys rail against ?

Also let us be clear P.M.M. was not a product of
Ted A's. It was a product to be pitched for cash.
Not unlike what Ostlind and Sissy do.

Good to have that set down on the line.


J I'm
You are funny!!!!
THE MAN THE SKEPTICS REFUSE TO TEST FOR ONE MILLION DOLLARS.. The Worlds Foremost Authority on Houdini's Life after Death.....
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Yes but also correct.
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On 2012-04-01 21:00, mrkmarik wrote:
Right on J I'm that's why Ted called his book Practical MENTAL MAGIC Smile

And Yes Readings are Mentalism ( the hardest to develop)

And Mentalism is one of a branch of Magic

And all mentalists are Magicians

Respectfully to all who will disagree

Marc


Yes, they are part of mentalism NOT magic.

The Annemann book was published after his death under the title "Practical Mental Effects." The title was changed by Dover publications after the work became public domain.

Mentalism has separate origins than magic. I have written extensively on this as have others.

Only some magicians seem to not understand the difference between magic and mentalism. Unfortunately many of them mistakenly believe they are performing mentalism when, if fact, they are performing mental magic.
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I think he is referring to what the general public think about mentalism.

Mental magic is poorly performed mentalism.
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I personally don't think readings are anything to do with mentalism or magic both of which are entertainment arts. Psychic readings are a more serious matter and have very little to do with entertainment. It really has nothing whatsoever to do with showbusiness. It is a different business entirely and has as much relation to mentalism as a doctor consulting with his patients or an accountant dealing with your taxes.
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Visionquest I happy that you are back;)

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On 2012-04-01 23:11, Decomposed wrote:
I think he is referring to what the general public think about mentalism.

Mental magic is poorly performed mentalism.


I would hardly say that. Unless you believe much of what Richard Osterlind and Larry Becker do is poorly performed.
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On 2012-04-01 23:11, Decomposed wrote:
Mental magic is poorly performed mentalism.


Mental magic and mentalism are two different things. Neither is "better" than the other. They are just different.

I would agree, though, that poorly performed mentalism is sometimes referred to as "mental magic" because it is obvious that the performer is doing "tricks."
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Would it be fair to say that there is less entertainment value when doing a reading? In comparison to say a mind reading effect like 4DT which is seemingly more entertaining for a spectator. A personal reading, is more about your insight to their life etc. I hope someone here understands what I mean, and Im not just ranting like a crazy person...

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