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Marlin1894 Special user 559 Posts |
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Your poor government is only trying to keep up. Maybe they plan to ship them to mexican gun smugglers. |
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kcg5 Inner circle who wants four fried chickens and a coke 1868 Posts |
So...people really thought he would ban guns? I have a bridge I wanna sell ya
Nobody expects the spanish inquisition!!!!!
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On 2012-04-10 12:17, kcg5 wrote: Read District of Columbia v. Heller. If your point is that it's silly to think that a president could or would ban guns single-handedly, I agree; if you think that means that a president couldn't have a dramatic impact on Second Amendment rights in the country, I disagree. Washington DC didn't need the president to do anything for them except appoint one more SCOTUS judge to back them up.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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Woland Special user 680 Posts |
Marlin1894,
You are right about target practice. However, there is something to be said for combat shooting practice using the actual weapons and the actual ammunition that will be used when you see the elephant. |
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
Will they then be using actual American people for their target practice?
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
Tommy |
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Marlin1894 Special user 559 Posts |
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On 2012-04-10 13:08, Woland wrote: No doubt. I'm just saying that from what I have seen what they are purchasing is premium ammunition. It's expensive and for the most part is overkill for training or qualification purposes. Even the guys I shoot with who use high end ammo for practice tend to be reloaders because of the high cost. Which by the way has gone up significantly in recent years for several reasons. Obviously I wouldn't be surprised if the gov't did just send the good stuff downrange willy nilly. Saving money has never been a big priority. I do think it is a curiously high number of rounds to purchase, especially given the fact that in 2009 the DHS requested, and received, 200 million rounds of 135 grain .40 cal hollow point ammo. That contract, with Winchester, was to be delivered over 5 years from 2009-2014. Now they are getting 450 million more rounds. And that's just handgun ammo. No reason not to get plenty of practice now, that's for sure. |
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Woland Special user 680 Posts |
Thanks, Marlin. For how many individual users is the DHS purchasing ammunition?
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Marlin1894 Special user 559 Posts |
I couldn't tell you. I know the DHS has absorbed some other agencies so I don't know how many users there might be. I do know that in July of last year they requested 5,000 .40 cal cleaning kits. According to that bid request those were just for the TSA.
https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&......_cview=1 |
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ThatsJustWrong! Special user My flying monkeys are perched on 629 Posts |
Don't forget that after inflation skyrockets (more), the world forecloses on us and the government collapses, ammunition will be the new currency in a barter economy. This may be their way of printing new paper
Joe Leo
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Marlin1894 Special user 559 Posts |
You may be on to something!
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
Maybe they get a good discount for high quantity purchases. Or maybe they're just lousy shots.
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
Hollow point bullets! I've often wondered why so many innocent people who are shot by the pear creatures end up dead.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
What's this fixation with pear shaped people? Were you a victim of an alien abduction recently?
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Pakar Ilusi Inner circle 5777 Posts |
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On 2012-04-10 16:43, mastermindreader wrote: ALIENS USE HOLLOW POINT BULLETS?
"Dreams aren't a matter of Chance but a matter of Choice." -DC-
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 2653 Posts |
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On 2012-04-10 16:47, Pakar Ilusi wrote: In this case their bullets have two batteries and a cord and they call it a "probe."
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
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edh Inner circle 4698 Posts |
Tommy, that video had me going for a bit.
Magic is a vanishing art.
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 2653 Posts |
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On 2012-04-10 16:43, mastermindreader wrote: "The Pear people... are an indigenous group living a sparse existence after years of conflict in Cambodia and Thailand." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pear_people Who doesn't like primitives? I know I do!
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
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On 2012-04-10 14:22, that'sJustWrong! wrote:... currency in a barter economy.... Are there any barter economies?
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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MagicSanta Inner circle Northern Nevada 5841 Posts |
I'm not a gun person, are hollow points the ones that expand or shattr so they stay in the thing being shot? I have an idea, novacaine bullets. The tip has novacaine on it so the ret of the bullet enters with comfert.
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Bob1Dog Inner circle Wife: It's me or this houseful of 1159 Posts |
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On 2012-04-10 19:58, MagicSanta wrote: Hollow points go "splat" inside whatever it hits. Novacaine isn't necessary; the "splat" takes care of that rather quickly, followed by the pain seconds later, or dizziness, bleeding and other things, or in the well placed shot, nothingness. The reason these rounds are used on animals in hunting is so they will kill them, not merely maim them to get away and suffer or disable them, only to die a slow death in the wild. That's why hunters should be good shots; if one of these rounds isn't a kill shot, the animal will suffer and probably die slowly. I've known some military folks who have been hit with "jacketed" enemy military rounds, which are designed not to go "splat," but to enter and exit cleanly more to disable the enemy rather than kill them. At least that's what the theory is anyway. And to a man, they say they never felt the bullet hit them. Seems the velocity at impact has it's own novacaine effect. The pain, (or loss of conciousness, or in the case of a mortal wound) comes seconds or even minutes later. All bets are off with any gut shot though regarding the novacaine effect, hollow or jacketed rounds. Just review the Lee Harvey Oswald recording of Ruby's shot to the belly.
What if the Hokey Pokey really IS what it's all about?
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