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Bursky New user West Hollywood, Ca. 78 Posts |
I just bought the Spider Pen Pro. This is great. I have all of Yigal Mesika levitation products. I am a big fan of them all. But this is now my favorite. This can not be topped. Also the DVD is terrific. Yigal actually performs miracles on this DVD with the Spider Pen Pro.
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Xiqual Inner circle Upper left quadrant 4935 Posts |
I just received my SPP and I watched the DVD all the way through. I first put the battery in, squeezed it and nothing, squeezed a bit more and it worked. I played with this thing for a few hours really having fun, but then the thread broke, easy to fix but after that it seemed like the motor would shut off after 10 seconds and the bill would drop, then start again. I thought the pen had a problem. I tried to duplicate the problem butit was erratic. I decided to pull all the thread out while attached to the wall. I started but after about 15 feet the thread broke. I pulled the spool and discovered the thread, probably due to two backlashes was wound in several directions.
I decided to pull all the thread off and respool my own wooly nylon. Mine is blue and I like that better anyway. I used a needle to rip all the tangled thread off, then used wax to attach the end of the stripped thread [I had already stripped out 20 feet of my wooly nylon and attached it to the wall] to the top of the spool, I wrapped the spool about five times and replaced it inside the pen, replaced the cap and while grabbing the thread, pulled to turn on the motor. I used my hand to keep the thread tight and fed the line slowly as I walked towards the anchor. Now my pen is working absolutely great! No stops, unless I wait 30 seconds. I work in very bright overhead lighting. I have found with the spider pen, because it is so stealth, breakage is no problem. The line is able to go in a straight line because the pen can be seen. The motor pulls less than the thread breakage point, so no snags. The tension is constant. Really fantastic. I have also found that in bright light if the thread runs more vertical it is harder to see. The closer the anchor to you and the more vertical seems to make the thread really hard to see. I have been doing floating receipt in fluorescent light, using a close anchor and nearly vertical line. No one sees it. I agree this is a professional tool. I have used thread for 15 years. If you have never used thread, you really need to get the "zen" for thread or you will have a lot of breaks and snags. The Spider Pen Pro, in my honest opinion is a fantastic tool that will let me float things seemingly impromptu. James
Still with the Chinese circus
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Zombie Magic Inner circle I went out for a beer and now have 8733 Posts |
James, thanks for the review and also fix tips.
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Xiqual Inner circle Upper left quadrant 4935 Posts |
Welcome Clark,
Don't be put off by the negativity of some posters. It IS a fantastic tool. An experienced thread head like yourself will love it. I do, James
Still with the Chinese circus
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Lloyd_SG New user 84 Posts |
Hello guys
Here's a solution for those who can't seem to activate the motor after pulling the thread. The problem could possibly lies with the motor shaft being disconnected from spool. This will results in the spool rotating on top of the shaft when the thread is being pulled. To fix this issue, you may apply a small amount of wax beneath the spool. Now, put the spool back into the motor. The wax will now have a direct contact with the spool and motor. This will make sure that the motor will rotate with the spool as the thread is being pulled. Hope this will help to solve your problem. |
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joseph Eternal Order Please ignore my 17407 Posts |
24 pages, and it ends up like this...
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler." (Einstein)...
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Xiqual Inner circle Upper left quadrant 4935 Posts |
Yes! Isn't it great to have so many solutions to problems? The magic Café is a fantastic place. I agree with you Joseph.
James Quote: On 2012-08-04 07:03, joseph wrote:
Still with the Chinese circus
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Dominic Reyes Inner circle Got to a gig too early so wrote his 1429 Posts |
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On 2012-08-04 08:07, Xiqual wrote: Yep. I agree, realky good thread giving helpful user tips. It would be good to compile these into a handy F.AQ ebook or page for the Pens Very constructive stuff!
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Wizard Of Wonders New user Europe 61 Posts |
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On 2012-08-04 03:28, Xiqual wrote: Nicely put James. Those who know and have been working with thread for many years know what a great tool it is. I have been using it for about a week now and can't say anything against it. Again, as in my review somewhere in the past 24 pages, this is a tool for the pros and not for someone starting off!
So this is magic!
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MR Effecto Inner circle 2836 Posts |
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On 2012-08-04 02:50, Xiqual wrote: Well put. I have also been working with thread for around 15 years. Let me tell you this is the best real I ever worked with. This is a pro pen. |
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PRINCE Inner circle 1448 Posts |
JamesH, by an item stating it is made in the USA can be an added selling point for some people. I think you are missing the point about the gripe regarding the statement. If it was made in CHINA then it should have stated that. Why lie and state that it was made in the USA? Perhaps because he knew that more sales would come from it if people thought it was made in the USA? There is nothing wrong in that the pen was made in CHINA, but why deliberatly lie about its origin? Then again there is something wrong if cheap parts/electrics were used in china to make the pen resulting in poor performance and reliability. Also again to say that the only reason why anyone would want to do this, is hoping it would perhaps affect the sales and mislead. I know whats happened... Yigal got his pen made in the USA, but the rest for market was made in CHINA - problem solved. At least he wont have to worry about the reliability and performance of his pen when he uses it.
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DR STEVE HOSKINS Special user North Wales, UK. 831 Posts |
Well I am really glad I decided months ago not to risk ordering the new Spider Pen Pro, as I expected lots of these are going to be for sale secondhand, - but I'm not even sure id be tempted by a cheap secondhand version now.
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JeremyM0411 Special user Moody, Alabama 608 Posts |
Here is what I got when I emailed Yigal about the made in USA problem:
Jeremy, Most of the product is made in the USA. About 70% is all from the USA but it was assembled in China. If anything is assembled in China though it has to leave with MADE IN PRC. Therefore, because 70% of the Spider Pen Pro was made here (software, electrical components, printing, DVD, Brochure, thread, spool) it is legally acceptable to say the product was made in the USA. Regards, Jude OBO Yigal Mesika |
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DougNicols Special user 846 Posts |
So if I make a product in China, and then toss in 5 pieces of paper made in the USA, I can say label it MADE IN USA. That's hot.
It's laughable that you people send your inventions to China, and then are shocked and amazed when the chinese ripoff versions arrive for sale so soon. |
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Danny Kazam Inner circle 1516 Posts |
I believe Mr Mesika is incorrect. If the product is made or assembled in China, then by legal means "Made In China" must be on the product. If Mr. Mesika claimed in his ads that the product was made in USA then I'm sure he is guilty of making false and misleading claims which he could face penalties for. If it were legally exceptable to claim a product was made in USA when it wasn't we would have a bigger serious problem on our hands.
I'm sorry to say that I believe MR. Mesiska has mislead people to believe the product was made in the USA. Even if 70% of the parts were made in the USA, he cannot make such a claim in his ads without opening himself up to be sued for false and misleading advertising. I will file a complaint against him and keep you all informed.
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Danny Kazam Inner circle 1516 Posts |
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On 2012-08-04 11:01, DougNicols wrote: No you can't, that's why Mr. Mesika's response to a customer is very questionable. There are lawsuits out there because some companies made such a claim as Mesika is making. http://www.ftc.gov/os/statutes/usajump.shtm What happens if you break the rules and make a false “Made in America” claim? Companies have tried all sorts of ways to skirt the law with indirect claims, like proudly displaying an American flag or the Statue of Liberty on the product. Not allowed, says the FTC. Unless the product meets the “all or virtually all” standard, you can’t try to trick consumers by wrapping your product in the flag. If you get caught, and the FTC decides you’ve crossed the line, you’ll get an order to stop making the claim. Most companies who get nabbed agree to stop making false Made in America claims without admitting or denying they did anything wrong. If you break the rules again, you'll probably get hit with a heavy fine for each infraction. But the FTC doesn’t have a Made in America Police browsing store shelves for violations. The agency relies on consumers to tip them to infractions. If you think a company is falsely making a "Made in America" claim, you can notify the FTC’s Complaint Assistant Web site.
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Xiqual Inner circle Upper left quadrant 4935 Posts |
Honestly, I don't care if it was made by Mao Tse Tung's wife and The gang of four, while they were hatching plans for world domination. Are you using a keyboard? How about a monitor. It was made in Taiwan. Hey, got an iPhone? Made in China by a Taiwanese company.
It seems that a lot of the rabble rousers here don't even have a Spider Pen Pro. It also seems a lot of those same people have some grudge against Yigal Mesika. Another thing I care absolutely nothing about. Here is what I care about in this issue. I have my pen, it works great,it is an awesome tool. To me the label "made in the USA" is not a plus. Maybe 30 years ago, but let's get real y'all, overpriced manufacturing is never a plus. James
Still with the Chinese circus
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ralphs007 Inner circle 1087 Posts |
Thanks Xiqual for your tips. Last night I experienced the backlash problem you mentioned. Since I'm a Fisherman, I'm used to line or thread getting tangled. It's the nature of the beast. I'd like to spool my SPP with the thread that came with my "Web Spinner" which is great stuff. I'm not sure where I could buy a spool of it so I'll be using Wooly Nylon.I read somewhere at the Café that grape was a very good color of Wooly to use. I'll be using navy blue and I never had a problem with that color.
I'm very happy with my SPP. I'm hoping that being aware of the backlash problem is enough to prevent it.It's just part of the learning curve. I'm going to be more mindful of moving a little slower when I retrieve the thread. hth Ralph
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AndyLuka Elite user Milwaukee, Wisconsin 440 Posts |
There seems to be more issues than it is worth with the SPP. I was dumb enough to buy the Tarantula when it first came out and I was very disappointed in it. It seems once again Yigal Mesika released another unreliable product at a much inflated price.
I really enjoy thread work, but I will stick to a classic ITR. I have my own hook up that I use, and it works great. An ITR cost a whopping $20 and will last a while. If it breaks, it’s a 3 min fix, and I always carry a back up when at a gig. To me it seems there is too much fuss with whiplash, and the pen not working properly. If I were to spend that kind of money on a magic prop, I don’t expect to have to take out my razor blade and start scraping away at parts in hopes it will work properly. My money is better spent on other things.
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magicmarkworldwide New user 11 Posts |
Does anyone else have the problem of the thread breaking so so so so easily? I'm fairly new to thread work, but can't imagine any experience would prevent it from breaking so easily? I just don't understand what I am doing wrong... the pen works fine, but the thread just seems too week. Any slight tug and SNAP. why guys? Am I just lousy? Can experience really help?
Also... please tell me, is Mesika wax an absolute must? I lost my pellet and have been using bluetack and plastercine. Is this too heavy for the thread? THANKS GUYS... sorry for my inexperience with ITR. |
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