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Jeff007
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Yeah, now the NY Daily News is publishing things that they see in a tabloid. Why don't they (and all of us) just wait to hear the truth? The media is the media afterall. I don't think any of us here know Roy's condition, and all we are doing is posting several contradicting things that we hear from different news sources. This is ridiculous!

Excuse me if I'm optimistic (as if that were a bad thing!), but I pray for Roy's complete recovery, as he may already be on the way to it now!
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I agree with Jeff in this matter. Just about every source is saying something different. It's hard to believe any of it unless it comes from Siegfried, someone close to them (Bernie, Roy's doctors, etc.) and God willing Roy himself.
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This is what some people are now reporting:

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LAS VEGAS -- Doctors surgically removed a portion of illusionist Roy Horn's skull after the accident with white tiger Montecore during a performance on the Las Vegas Strip.

Las Vegas neurosurgeon Lonnie Hammargren said about one-fourth of the right side of the Siegfried & Roy star's skull was removed to relieve cranial pressure in the crucial hours after the Oct. 3 accident. He said Horn suffered a "pretty big stroke" but that his paralysis might only be temporary.

Horn remained in critical condition Thursday at University Medical Center in Las Vegas. Hammargren said it was unclear when Horn would undergo surgery to return the skull piece.

Hammargren, a former Nevada lieutenant governor, told the Las Vegas Review-Journal that he was commenting about Horn's treatment to correct misinformation about the procedure.

Hammargren didn't operate on Horn, but said he talked with Horn's surgeon, Dr. Derek Duke, about Horn's treatment.

Hammargren denied published reports that Horn, 59, underwent a radical procedure called a hemicraniectomy, involving surgical removal of half the skull.

He said Horn's surgeons instead performed a decompressive craniectomy, a more common procedure involving removal of about one-quarter of the skull.

"Dr. Duke did exactly the operation he should have," Hammargren said Wednesday. "Otherwise, Roy would be dead."

Hammargren said surgeons can remove a portion of the skull to give the brain room to expand following brain surgery, trauma, stroke or other medical problems causing the brain to swell.

The removed portion of the skull can then be surgically placed in the abdomen or frozen until it can be replaced, Hammargren said. He said he was told Horn's skull had been implanted in a pouch in Horn's abdomen.

Hammargren confirmed that Horn suffered a stroke and was paralyzed on the left side after the tiger attacked his neck.

"He had a pretty big stroke," the neurosurgeon said. "We just don't know yet. Fortunately, the stroke didn't hit on the side where he talks, thinks and remembers. He can still comprehend things and do things."

The 7-year-old male tiger that attacked Horn was released Tuesday from quarantine after 10 days of isolation. Clark County officials said they determined it did not have rabies.

MGM Mirage officials said the animal, named Montecore, will continue to live at the Secret Garden, an animal habitat at The Mirage hotel-casino.

As for the accuracy, who knows? Just thought I'd post it though for those interested and didn't already find this "news" elsewhere.
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We'd have a better chance of judging its credibility if you provided the source of the article.
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Knowing the source does not help prove the accuracy by any means, it is all media anyway. Some have started publishing things that they found in a tabloid, as stated elsewhere.

If you really want to know though, sources were:

Mid Columbia Tri City Herald, WA
San Francisco Chronicle, CA
KTVU.com, CA
WXIA-TV, GA
Wichita Eagle, KS
News 14 Carolina, NC
KATV, AR...shall I keep going?

Not that everyone reporting the same thing makes it any more accurate. That can easily be the result of a single news organization sparking all of the others that are interested. I hate the media, can't you tell? Smile
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Here's a link to a recent story from the LV Review-Journal.
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Actually, Jeff, I was curious about the source of that particular article, not just the facts in it. It makes a difference if it was a wire service report vs. a local newpaper vs. an online tabloid. Something from the Associated Press has more credibility (they check their facts) than, say, something from Fast Eddie's Online Journal.

Since there appears to be several fairly credible sources reporting the same facts, and the doctor in question appears to be a credible source (though not the doctor directly involved), we can assume that, at the very least, things are better for Roy than some of the more questionable sources have reported.
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A MESSAGE FROM SIEGFRIED:

It is with great joy that we are able to share the news that Roy is making the turn from survival to recovery. While we are all aware that the road ahead is long and an expanded prognosis is still far away, all of us at the Siegfried and Roy family are buoyed by Roy's remarkable demonstration of will, courage and faith.

The outpouring of love and support from around the world has touched us all, and we know it is a great contributor to Roy's recovery. On behalf of all of us, I want to thank everyone who has sent us their best wishes and prayers during this difficult time.

Also, please know that Montecore is now in his habitat at the Secret Garden at The Mirage where he and all of the Siegfried and Roy animal family are protected and receive the finest care from our staff.

While the Siegfried and Roy Show at The Mirage is closed, Siegfried and Roy will continue both creatively and in our conservation efforts for endangered animals around the world. We look forward to sharing those endeavors with you in the future.

Again, from all of us here, our deepest thanks.

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These guys are millionaires, they should take care of the employees that were let go.
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You are right. Those employees are probably way too stupid to take care of themselves. S&R should take care of these ADULTS financial lives forever. Smile
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Hear! Hear! dpe666.
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Agreed!

Why is it when someone has money, everyone else thinks they should hand it out like candy? If a Walmart shut down would you expect Walmart to "take care" of the employees they let go? Yes, it is unfortunate that the show closed down, but it is no different than a lay off from any other company just because S&R have money. Just my thoughts.

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Agreed...it's like working at any other job. It's kind of like a television show. Siegfried and Roy were the two main characters. If a television show gets cancelled, it's not up to the actors to pay everybody's bills until they all get new jobs. "Stuff" happens. It's unfair, but not up to S&R to pay for it.

It's nice that The Mirage is trying to help everyone find new jobs. They could just as easily say sorry and turn away.
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I said that because like all phoney show biz people, the employees are referred to as "family". They most definitely are not family, nor are treated as such.
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I don't know, if my brother was my "boss" and had a 600 pound tiger bite his throat, I don't think his main concern would be finding ME a new job.

I truly believe our society has become helpless. Everyone expects someone else to take care of them. I feel sorry for those people losing jobs, but it happens everyday, and those everyday people go out and find new jobs without the old boss giving them money, references or any help whatsoever. It's called responsiblity and it makes people accountable.

I'm rambling now so I'm going to stop.

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There's a new controversy arising, surrounding Roy's surgeon:

Controversy For One Local Neurosurgeon

A miracle surgery to save master magician Roy Horn's life is now the root of controversy for one local neurosurgeon.

FOX5 News was the first to tell you about the risky life saving operation performed on Roy.

But now, those closest to him aren't very happy that the medical details are being made public and the doctor who wanted to set the record straight is under fire.

Dr. Lonnie Hammargren did not perform Horn's surgery but he told FOX5 about the procedure.

"It's not common. It's necessary. I call it a decompressive craniotomy- and as a first procedure it can be life saving and in this case it was." Dr. Lonnie Hammargren said to FOX5.

Roy Horn suffered a massive stroke after the October 3rd attack by one of his white tigers. The stroke caused swelling in his brain. Doctors removed a portion of his skull to alleviate the pressure and stored the piece in his abdomen.

Dr. Hammargren has performed this procedure dozens of times. However, he said he could not talk specifically about Horn's operation. 

"I can't really comment on Roy.  I'm not his doctor, not up to date on all the things happening," Dr. Hammargren commented.

New federal laws prohibit doctors from disclosing information about their patients.

Hammargren agreed to go on the record with FOX5 News only to correct published statements in several national newspapers.

When they talked about a hemicraniectomy they quoted a neurosurgeon who didn't know any details of the case. Hemicraniectomy means you took the whole skull off along one side.

Now, Hammargren's attempt to set things straight is causing problems.

UMC confirms they are launching an investigation after longtime Siegfried and Roy manager, Bernie Yuman, saw our report.

MGM mirage spokesperson Alan Feldman also chastised Dr. Hammargren, saying that "Mr. Hammargren has no direct knowledge, and no authority to speak." Mr. Feldman went on to say that "the family of Roy has asked everyone to stay focused on his recovery."

A recovery they're not willing to talk about.

In fact the Siegfried and Roy camp and UMC have been very tight lipped about Roy's recovery, revealing only that Roy is still in critical condition.
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HORN MOVED TO L.A.
October 29, 2003

ROY HORN, of the Las Vegas illusionist duo "Siegfried and Roy," was moved to a Los Angeles-area hospital on Tuesday. The 59-year-old performer had been in intensive care at University Medical Center in Vegas since being mauled on-stage by a 600-pound, white tiger on Oct. 3. Roy suffered a stroke and severe blood loss from the attack. While his long-term prognosis is unknown, Roy is reportedly aware when people are visiting him and responds with hand squeezes, however his eyes still reportedly do not track.
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I got this reply to an e-mail I sent to wish Roy well:

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All of us in the MGM MIRAGE family are touched by your expression of good wishes for Roy Horn. We will continue to share the many wonderful sentiments with Siegfried, Roy and their family and friends. The outpouring of love has been overwhelming, so it won't be possible to respond to everyone individually, but please know your thoughts are appreciated.

The injuries Roy Horn sustained during the Siegfried & Roy performance at The Mirage on Friday, October 3, 2003, were extremely severe, and while his condition remains serious, we are cautiously optimistic about his prognosis and recovery. It will, however, be some time before the full extent of his injuries is determined.

Regretfully, future performances of Siegfried & Roy have been cancelled indefinitely.

Cards and letters may be sent to Roy Horn, c/o The Mirage, 3400 Las Vegas Blvd. South, Las Vegas, NV 89109. Flowers may also be sent to this address, and will be placed with others displayed by the Siegfried & Roy Statue in front of The Mirage, in expression of the overwhelming concern we have received for Roy from all around the world.

Many people have requested information regarding donations. We all feel that UMC and its excellent medical staff saved Roy¹s life, and therefore ask that you send your donations in Roy¹s name to University Medical Center Foundation, Inc., P.O. Box 26118, Las Vegas, NV 89126-0110.

Again, on behalf of Roy Horn and The Mirage, thank you for your kindness and caring. The support Roy has received from his many friends and fans is no doubt very much appreciated during this difficult time, and your comments will be appropriately conveyed.

Sincerely,
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Anything more on Roy? Hope he is coming along.
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