

The Magic Ref Loyal user Flint, Mi. 289 Posts 
Hi all, It sems like I remember a card force where you put the cards in a circle, kind of like a clock. Then there is a way to force the one you want. Does this method of forcing come to mind? I'm looking for a way to force a card with the cards in a circle using maybe 10 to 15 cards... Thanks.. Mike
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Chappo Special user Bris Vegas 754 Posts 
Is it a force involving a mathematical principle? If it's the one I'm thinking of, you can only utilise 12 cards in the 'clockface' as it were.
The rules of a sleight of hand artist, Are three, and all others are vain,
The 1st & the 2nd are practice... And the 3rd one is practice again  'Magic of the Hands', Edward Victor (1940) 
BenGGie New user 67 Posts 
The force is taught on one of Daryl's encyclopedia of card sleights, and the Justin Miller Guerilla Guide to loops DVD.

Hofi New user 55 Posts 
This is part of a trick often called the clock trick with 12 cards. The spectator does think of a time out of 12 ...

Julie Inner circle 3456 Posts 
Check "Force Ten" in Jm Steinmeyer's book SUBSEQUENT IMPUZZIBILITIES. It uses 12 faceup cards in a circle and the force is 100% reliable.
Julie 
723sabre Loyal user 260 Posts 
Ken's Klock by Ken DeCourcy uses this method of 12 cards like a clock face. I believe this is still sold by Aldo Colombini, wildcolombini.com This ends up with a selected "time" being a different color back on the card and the clock hand you use to point to the chosen time is then magically changed and a duplicate of the card is now on the face of the clock hand. Clever routine really, you start with a whole deck and go from there.

John McLaughlin Veteran user Gloucester, Massachusetts 387 Posts 
John Bannon used the clock force, with a couple of other easy moves to create "Clock O'Doom" in his book Smoke and Mirrors. Well worth checking out.
...NSA John McLaughlin, not CIA John McLaughlin

ropeadope Elite user Mississippi 453 Posts 
"Big Ben" clock trick in Garcia & Schneider`s book; Magic with Cards.
Great impromptu 3 way baffler. Have fun, John
Nothing is better than more.

WalterPlinge Loyal user 272 Posts 
BTW, "Big Ben" is the same as "Crazy Clocks" in More SelfWorking Card Tricks by Karl Fulves.

Tom G Inner circle 2735 Posts 
Paul Harris had Overclock.

Picard Elite user 411 Posts 
For a truly great 3phase clock trick take a look at Three Proofs by Tom Daugherty, found in Apocalypse Vol.17, No.9 (page 2401).

Julie Inner circle 3456 Posts 
Another great reference is the 1984 booklet A World of Clocks written by Roy Johnson and published by Jeff Busby.
Described are several tricks using assorted applications of a clock principle. Julie 
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