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Phatmeat
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I think this looks like a great T&R effect: http://youtu.be/osu8-Nwh1Kk
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On 2012-05-14 14:28, Phatmeat wrote:
I think this looks like a great T&R effect: http://youtu.be/osu8-Nwh1Kk


Yes, but this seems so boring... What is the justification for this effect? Nothing. I prefer "Star", by the same creator.
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Is there a justification for any T n R? I think this looks great. Looking forward to some reviews.
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It does look great.
I love that it takes a second "try" to get all the damage out. Very fun!
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On 2012-05-14 14:44, doriancaudal wrote:
Yes, but this seems so boring... What is the justification for this effect? Nothing. I prefer "Star", by the same creator.


if I only had a penny for every time a spectator had stopped me and shouted "WHAT IS THE JUSTIFICATION FOR THIS EFFECT?"


I bought it, it's good, it's not necessarily the best thing I have purchased from Dave Forrest but it is very good and will I'm sure be a big hit when performed. The restoration is very, very nice. All really well produced and nicely made.
It's very different from STAR, can't really compare them. I put this as almost an impromptu style effect, one of those 'accident' things that work really well as part of a set. Like the disappearing box effect, not going to just perform that and walk off, this is a valuable asset to have.

The video talks about a couple of practical things, storage and prep which are really nice to see.

Not difficult to perform and you won't really need anything out of the ordinary, though you will need to be able to hold a deck of cards etc.

Shouldn't really need to be said but it's not hiding any nasty method cuts or anything, it plays as shown in the trailer. Very nice I say!
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Looks nice I do love Dave Forrest's stuff.
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I thought it looked great - boring ??
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Can we get a demo without all the silly cuts and effects?
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Damage is really clever, love the details he added to make it look as magical and real as possible.

It is easy to perform which makes it a real worker.

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Sticky, nothing is left out. You are basically seeing the full effect how the spectator would see it.
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Damage is fantastic. A really great effect with a super convincing method that I'm looking forward to performing. If you like
T & R effects then get this, it's right up there with the best.
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Reminds me of something Bernard Billis done years ago,but much better.

The fact they seem to still see their card ripped after the card is turned over and they clearly see their signature in a very open manner as the restore seems to happen is a powerful moment and done without a switch of any kind and can be handed out that instant is some very clever thinking in my opinion,not to mention how easy it is as well.

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I love it!
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Great work dave!!!

looks amazing

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I got mine just today and seems like the coolest method out there. Great work Dave!

That being said, I would prefer to use it as an accident handled magically, if I understood what Olympic Adam said in the sense he meant. I tried it as a trick while performing for my mom. Something like how Hollingworth entered his Reformation routine by saying that the card is going to be torn and then fixed and all. My mom felt the fact that I held the deck in my hand as pretty suspicious. She asked me to put down the deck and then do the restoration bit. I din't know how exactly to counter that issue.

But when I performed it for my girlfriend, I made it look like I accidentally tore the card and she started giggling wildly saying it's ok and kissed me on the cheek to make me feel better about the apparent faux passe. Guys, you should have seen her reaction when she actually saw me restore the torn card right then and there in front of her eyes! That reaction is what made me confident that this would be a superb way of presenting it. And since it happens as an accident, she dint know what to expect as I started the restoration. The fact that it was clearly seen to be her signed card is what actually got her shocked.

I remember Mike Skinner doing a similar effect where he accidentally tears a card and then puts aside the torn card in his pocket and when the spectator chooses another card, it is found to be the same (signed?) card that was torn just moments ago.

Another instance where it hits the audience right behind their heads is where Copperfield performs his Deathsaw as an escape gone wrong and then righted by his magic.

Thanks a ton Dave Forrest for releasing this gem!

Matt
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Looks really good! It does however look very similar to dan hauss's torn and restored card on his restless dvd. Not accusing anyone of any crazy stuff..just seeing a comparison.
Did dan and billi's get credit on the effect?

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Looks very similar to 'Torn Twisted and Restored' by Steve Leathwaite but not as good or anywhere near as convincing.
Take a look:

http://www.worldmagicshop.com/Torn_Twist......rest.htm
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So Damage is based on a trick of Dave's called Ripped & Repaired that came out maybe ten years ago. In that version, he tears the corner off a card staples it back on as a joke and then visually heals the card. I need to check out Restless (I do have it but can;t remember the T&R). But the visual heal is Dave's and is what really makes the effect.

Raymondo, I don't understand. Are you saying Stephen's is more convincing. I think Torn, Twisted and Restored is a cool trick but in no way more convincing than damage. It's a completely different effect, more akin to the Albo Card effect that Michael Ammar sells.
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Hi Cameron,
Yes - I am saying that Torn Twisted & Restored is more convincing due to the fact that with this effect the bottom part of the card is completely torn off,signed, turned over, shown to be completely seperated then restored in front of the spectators eyes. With Damage from what I can see on the video trailer the card is only partly torn off then quickly restored without the card being lifted off the deck or shown in any other way. Only after the restoration is the card lifted from the deck and shown. For this reason I think it is far from convincing and lacks any real gravitas as a serious T&R effect (I need to own up here and admit to being a complete and total T&R effect junkie!). I also think David's extravagant claim of 'Damage is torn and restored card effect unlike any other' is just a little bit OTT - But hey what's new with a magician hyping his own creation ;-)
I wish him luck with it, but certainly not for me.
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I respect your opinion. I personally don't agree that it's stronger. I think they are very different effects.

I also don't think that tearing a piece all the way off or not makes any difference in the world. A tear is a tear. The spectators can unquestionably see the card is torn. But, for my money, what sells Damage is the visual heal of the card. That is its major selling point. That's what makes it unlike any other T&R. Can you name another T&R where the card is visually healed like that?
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