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Gypsyprince12 New user 51 Posts |
What are some of the best sources for learning how to tell story telling magic?
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Dougini Inner circle The Beautiful State Of Maine 7130 Posts |
Here's one!
http://www.leapinglizardsmagic.com/tales_of_enchantment.htm Here's another one: http://www.leapinglizardsmagic.com/grandfather_stories.htm Check out the entire site! Doug |
rmann New user Milton VT and a forum newbie with only 96 Posts |
Gypsyprince12...you might want to cruise on over to the "Once Upon A Time" forum under 'The Cellar' category... http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewf......161&1844
I believe they focus on magical story telling. I'm sure the folks there would have some good suggestions. If you do a search on that forum someone might even have already addressed the topic. Ray
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Pastor Ray Mann Champlain Valley Church of the Nazarene St. Albans, VT (USA) "...to Him who alone does great wonders, His love endures forever." Ps 136:4 |
Brad Burt Inner circle 2675 Posts |
There is a huge problem in just reading 'scripts' for instance of 'patter stories', etc. You should try to set some goals for 'doing' story telling out loud even if only by yourself. Get a book of short children's stories of some king. Aesops Fables for instance. READ THEM OUT LOUD. Or, select one and just read it out loud. Now, read it out loud again and try to make it interesting. Tape yourself. Just audio is fine. Listen to yourself. Are you interesting? What's wrong, what's right. Have a fiend you can trust to give an intelligent critique. Get them to help.
Work on that children's story. Now, try to remember the story. Without reading it try to tell it to your living room. Do this until you think you have it down. Now, try to find an audience of children. Friends, kids, etc. Tell the story. How did you do? What were their reactions, etc. Most folks NEVER become really good story tellers because it is really, really, REALLY hard to do unless you are just born with the gift. On the positive side, it's a skill that most folks can learn to one degree or another if they work at it. I'll be honest. I believe that becoming a great story telling magician is far, far more difficult that learning to do even a fairly difficult piece of sleight-of-hand. The problem is that most who wish to do it don't have a plan. Even a simple one. The method above is simple. You just have to do it every day. Not for hours. 30 minutes a day and in a year you could rock. It's intelligent, observant application of a system that brings results over the long haul. Here's another actual fact from various studies: Many folks will quit just before they actualize real gains and get the result they were hoping for! Never, never, never give up. Best,
Brad Burt
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Vu Nguyen New user 26 Posts |
Brad, what you say is completely valid. I find myself constantly stumbling over myself when I'm reading my kids their bedtime stories. Mostly because wording used in children stories isn't exactly normal every day speech.
I think what the OP was asking about was pairing up stories to sleights. It may be easier to find a story to fit a sleight than it would be to find a sleight to fit a story. Thoughts? |
Akil New user 53 Posts |
Do you mean developing patter, or just routines tied into what you are saying?
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Brad Burt Inner circle 2675 Posts |
Developing patter to fit a routine is not really that difficult. DELIVERING story patter is a much more difficult skill to perfect. Work on your ability to tell ANY kind of story well and you will be 90% of the way to using it with your magic.
That's not to say you shouldn't be working on magic routines, sleights, etc. But, what mostly happens is we learn a great routine. It might even have cool patter. We might even learn the patter and do it ok. Why? Because, SPEAKING IS A SKILL UNTO ITSELF! Telling stories well is a skill unto itself. Work on your magic and over to one side also work on the skill of speaking and story telling. Start by reading a story out loud. Add interpretation: Pacing, inflection, tonal variation. Variation in volume, etc., etc. Tell the story to someone else. This may not be the only way to do it, but it's a 'way' to do it and it's logical. I really suggest to anyone wanting to be a better magic performer that they take acting classes. I've suggested this for over 40 years. Take voice. Take a little dance to learn to move better. Performing in the manner in which most magicians do to make money...is a SKILL SET. You can learn it. Depending on your level of innate talent you can work on it and get better. Most magicians, myself included, would much rather just learn a trick, learn the patter and then ta da......do it successfully. It doesn't work that way....almost ever. Everyone who reads this should try to see the video bio of the Master Vent: Jeff Dunham. It will open your eyes. This guy WORKED to get where he is! He was scoffed at by big time talent agents, etc. Told he'd never get anywhere and on and on. Jeff is the closest thing to what most magicians are and do as you can get that's not magic. Try to see this story if you can. Best,
Brad Burt
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hestonsmagic New user McMinnville, OR 92 Posts |
This is an interesting read... My wife and I came up with a story long ago.. it was a 7 card force, and as she told a story the people holding the cards would turn the card on que... This taught ne a valuable lesson... Listen to your spouse, they see you practice... But if your spouse is a teacher... Or you know a teacher ask them for help... Thier minds are in story mode almost all the time... They are a.great resource ... Tell them what you are wanting to do and then watch out...
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Yellowcustard Inner circle New Zealand 1334 Posts |
Beyond Deception, by Tobias Beckwith is worth checking out. I like doing story telling magic. First I find a style and way to tell the story. Then next find a story I want to tell along with the effect. Some times the story comes before the effect the other way around. I sugest you look at staory telling styles more widely than just look at what other storytelling magicians are doing.
Enjoy your magic,
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motown Inner circle Atlanta by way of Detroit 6127 Posts |
Read books that tell a great story to understand what makes an engaging story.
"If you ever write anything about me after I'm gone, I will come back and haunt you."
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Dougini Inner circle The Beautiful State Of Maine 7130 Posts |
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On 2012-05-24 14:54, Brad Burt wrote: A kinder entity would be even better! Quote:
That is some of the best advice! Believe me, just having the book (Tales...) is not enough. It sure helps, though! Brad's advice is spot on! Thank you for that, Brad! Doug |
Harry Lorayne 1926 - 2023 New York City 8558 Posts |
In my opinion, and what works for me, is that the "story" fits the routine, makes sense. You might, for example, check out my Magician Vs. Gambler, the Lorayne Poker Deal, Card Sharp & Four Gamblers. Those are what I can think of a the moment that fall into the "story" category. Best - Harry L.
[email]harrylorayne@earthlink.net[/email]
http://www.harrylorayne.com http://www.harryloraynemagic.com |
Brad Burt Inner circle 2675 Posts |
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On 2012-05-30 10:37, Dougini wrote: You are welcome. LOL on the 'fiend'! Well, at least for a mis-spell it actually does mean something.... Anyway for those without a close fiend, try a family member or friend. Best,
Brad Burt
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