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Would you want there to be a Supreme Being or would you prefetr that we are here by one big accident?

I have thougth about asking this as a two part question. The second part of the question is obvious. WHY?

Not sure if this would be considered a poll or a question.

Anyway here is my answer.

I would opt for the supreme being deal. The reason is that I hope there is more than just this.

Not looking for a debate here just curious about what you would prefer and if possible answer why. Just don't want to start a debate with the why. So don't answer the why if you are going to debate.
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Part of me wants there to be a supreme being, so there's someone to be mad at.
Part of me doesn't want there to be a supreme being, so there's no one to be mad at.
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On 2012-06-10 00:11, critter wrote:
Part of me wants there to be a supreme being, so there's someone to be mad at.
Part of me doesn't want there to be a supreme being, so there's no one to be mad at.


Wow. What a great answer. That blows me away. I am serious.
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Aces, I'm with you a hundred percent on this.
What if the Hokey Pokey really IS what it's all about? Smile

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On 2012-06-10 00:11, critter wrote:
Part of me wants there to be a supreme being, so there's someone to be mad at.
Part of me doesn't want there to be a supreme being, so there's no one to be mad at.

I guess I'm not as blown away by this as Acesover is. I don't need to be mad at a supreme being while here, and beyhond this world I won't be mad at anyone. That's what I hope for.
What if the Hokey Pokey really IS what it's all about? Smile

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I'm just glad God does exist so we can have discussions like this. Without God we do not exist. Why? Because I think deep down we love the idea of someone loving us the way only God could.


Good magic to all,


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Part of me wants there to be a supreme being, so there's someone to be mad at.
Part of me doesn't want there to be a supreme being, so there's no one to be mad at.

I guess I'm not as blown away by this as Acesover is. I don't need to be mad at a supreme being while here, and beyhond this world I won't be mad at anyone. That's what I hope for.


Thought we weren't supposed to debate our answers? Smile
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On 2012-06-10 00:11, critter wrote:
Part of me wants there to be a supreme being, so there's someone to be mad at.
Part of me doesn't want there to be a supreme being, so there's no one to be mad at.

I guess I'm not as blown away by this as Acesover is. I don't need to be mad at a supreme being while here, and beyhond this world I won't be mad at anyone. That's what I hope for.


Thought we weren't supposed to debate our answers? Smile


I know. Hope it does not continue. I should not have responded to our post as I did. That started it. Mad at myself Smile
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Not meant to be a debate. I respect your response, but just not blown over by it as acesover is and I stated why. I don't expect or wish debate either. That tonguey thing back at ya! (I don't feel like looking it up)
What if the Hokey Pokey really IS what it's all about? Smile

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On 2012-06-10 00:25, The great Gumbini wrote:
I'm just glad God does exist so we can have discussions like this. Without God we do not exist. Why? Because I think deep down we love the idea of someone loving us the way only God could.


Good magic to all,


Eric


How very tautological of you.

As to the OP, it certainly may feel "nice" to some to have the safety net of "it all has some purpose, some plan," I honestly don't think I have a desire for it to be one way or another. I do, however, know that IF there were some supreme being, especially if they resembled the one described in "the bible," then I would want nothing to do with them. This is presuming an omnipotent and omniscient being.
Unlike Critter, I do not have a particular desire for such a being to blame, or absence of one to blame, I just know that they would BE to blame.
It's amazing, people will criticize you for "biting the hand that feeds you," while they're busy praising the hand that beats them.

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I'd like to note that I don't feel that way all the time.
Sometimes I hope there's a supreme being with a switch to turn off the ****-storm, and then I hope that he's having a good day so that he'll flick that switch.
When I'm in a better mood I see something cool and think "wouldn't it be great if somebody made that for us?"
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I do, however, know that IF there were some supreme being, especially if they resembled the one described in "the bible," then I would want nothing to do with them. This is presuming an omnipotent and omniscient being.
Unlike Critter, I do not have a particular desire for such a being to blame, or absence of one to blame, I just know that they would BE to blame.

Seems like you're looking at more than ONE supreme being, no? Smile
What if the Hokey Pokey really IS what it's all about? Smile

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On 2012-06-10 00:39, critter wrote:
I'd like to note that I don't feel that way all the time.
Sometimes I hope there's a supreme being with a switch to turn off the ****-storm, and then I hope that he's having a good day so that he'll flick that switch.
When I'm in a better mood I see something cool and think "wouldn't it be great if somebody made that for us?"

Critter, again, not a debate here, just sharing experiences. Through my life there have been numerous (if not more!) times when something happened that had no explanation. Nothing special really. For instance. Once I was in a hurry to get to a place I NEEDED to be at by a certain time and the traffic was terrible. All the traffic lights worked for me. I didn't ask for it, it just happened. Other times I have narrowly missed car accidents, and other mishaps. It could have gone either way. There's another thread here discussing these occurrences, and they're not equal to the random occurrences we've shared in yet another thread. But sometimes, things just seem to work out for the better. Every time that happens to me I say a prayer of thanks. That's all. Bad things happen too. But as long as I'm still here, there's nothing bad that can happen to me.

Does this make any sense?
What if the Hokey Pokey really IS what it's all about? Smile

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Yeah I respect what you're saying.
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On 2012-06-10 00:05, acesover wrote:
Would you want there to be a Supreme Being or would you prefetr that we are here by one big accident?
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Being a person it's difficult not to project that sense of personhood onto the rest of existence when dealing with sentimental issues.

That said, would you really want all of existence to be at the whim of anyone, including yourself? Consider the chaos inherent to an existence where one plus one would be two or something else depending on the mood of the supreme being - which you can never know, predict or expect. What would be the basis of any expectations of the world in such a situation?

Once you put limits on the caprice of your posited supreme being you are also presuming to take on a role which permits you to be more than your supreme being. So, my vote is "no" to all such models... I'm simply not that arrogant.
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It's not an either/or proposition, though. What if we are here because a Supreme Being had one big accident?
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My answer to the OP is that it depends on the nature of the supreme being.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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Who said we are here by accident? The fact that we are even disucussing this on a computer is the the result of millions of years of evolution. That's no accident.
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On 2012-06-10 01:45, Jeff the Unamazing Hack wrote:
Who said we are here by accident? The fact that we are even disucussing this on a computer is the the result of millions of years of evolution. That's no accident.


Does this post express a belief?
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

"...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us."
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Supreme cuz sometimes you want more than pepperoni.
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