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Jeff J. Special user Connecticut 787 Posts |
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On 2012-06-10 01:51, LobowolfXXX wrote: Why are you so intent on saying atheists have a belief? We don't have a belief. Get over it. |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
I always had a weird thing for pursuing truth. Sorry for the inconvenience.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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Tom Cutts Staff Northern CA 5926 Posts |
Quote: Well that could certainly be interpreted in different ways. :0 <-- old scool!
On 2012-06-10 01:35, mastermindreader wrote: |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On 2012-06-10 01:56, Jeff the Unamazing Hack wrote: Actually, I'll put it in the form of a question. A yes/no question, even. Maybe our difference is entirely semantic. Let's say someone says, "There is no God." Do you believe that person has made a true statement?
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27294 Posts |
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On 2012-06-10 01:35, mastermindreader wrote: Supreme being has an accident? And just who would decide whether it was an accident, a supremer being? And we're supposed to clean up the mess? I heard a bulimic interpretation of cosmology once. A big binge theory where for six days god ate, and on the seventh...
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
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On 2012-06-10 01:59, Tom Cutts wrote: I think you picked up on the meaning I intended. I mean, how can you discuss eschatology without the schat? :eek: |
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Jeff J. Special user Connecticut 787 Posts |
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On 2012-06-10 02:03, LobowolfXXX wrote: Let's say somone says that there is no Santa. Is that person making a true statement? |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On 2012-06-10 02:11, Jeff the Unamazing Hack wrote: I don't blame you for not wanting to answer.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 2653 Posts |
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On 2012-06-10 02:11, Jeff the Unamazing Hack wrote: Obviously not: Quote: On 2012-06-10 01:52, MagicSanta wrote:
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
~Will Rogers |
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Jeff J. Special user Connecticut 787 Posts |
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On 2012-06-10 02:16, LobowolfXXX wrote: It sounds like you learned indoctrination at the same church as mine. Are you the one knocking on my door on the weekends telling me you have "good news"? |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On 2012-06-10 02:32, Jeff the Unamazing Hack wrote: I'm the one asking you a very simple yes/no question. If you can't or won't answer it, you really have no cause for complaining that I'm misconstruing your position.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On 2012-06-10 02:32, Jeff the Unamazing Hack wrote: Calling it anight, but if the suspense is killing you... I'm not a theist; I've never been a theist; and I wasn't raised to be a theist.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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stoneunhinged Inner circle 3067 Posts |
Not tough for me to answer. I really, truly wish there was a supreme being, and I truly wish that he or she or it was a benevolent being, and it would give me great comfort to know that I might be reunited with loved ones who have passed away.
That's what I would like to believe. |
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16532 Posts |
I would vote for a god that created things the way they are.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
Tommy |
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DiabolusMagic New user East Coast 23 Posts |
My answer would be neither. We, as magicians, should know better than anyone that everything has an explanation, and it's never supernatural.
Satanas vobiscum et cum spiritu tuo
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Steve_Mollett Inner circle Eh, so I've made 3006 Posts |
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On 2012-06-10 01:37, LobowolfXXX wrote: Bingo. If the supreme being is benevolent, non-judgemental, undemanding, non-narcissistic and VERY OBVIOUS and CLEAR in its communications with us: YES. If the supreme being is malevolent/dictatorial: NO If the supreme being is ambivalent, uncommunicative and mysterious: NO; such a being may as well not exist for all practical purposes. ACCIDENT I can (and do) live with--accidents happen.
Author of: GARROTE ESCAPES
The absurd is the essential concept and the first truth. - Albert Camus |
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Steve_Mollett Inner circle Eh, so I've made 3006 Posts |
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On 2012-06-10 08:18, DiabolusMagic wrote: We're not discussing "what is," but rather "what you would prefer." If not 'supreme being' and not 'cosmic happenstance' (aka accident), what 'third option' are you describing when you say, "Neither"?
Author of: GARROTE ESCAPES
The absurd is the essential concept and the first truth. - Albert Camus |
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TomBoleware Inner circle Hattiesburg, Ms 3162 Posts |
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On 2012-06-10 00:05, acesover wrote: I say, supreme being. IF he/she/it (I call him God) were fair to all. If he kept things simple and the plan included everyone. The plan would need to include men, women, all races, children, the blind, the deaf, the poor, the rich, the uneducated, and all the members of the Café. And if you didn't need a lawyer to understand the contract because it simply read, "just trust me." In exchange for that trust I would be guaranteed peace of mind forever. Now that would be a deal. Tom
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acesover Special user I believe I have 821 Posts |
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On 2012-06-10 00:38, gdw wrote: Did you answer the original question or just comcment on critters response? I am not sure.
If I were to agree with you. Then we would both be wrong. As of Apr 5, 2015 10:26 pm I have 880 posts. Used to have over 1,000
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acesover Special user I believe I have 821 Posts |
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On 2012-06-10 01:21, Jonathan Townsend wrote: That is all well aand wonderful as are all yor posts. Did you answer the question of the original post?
If I were to agree with you. Then we would both be wrong. As of Apr 5, 2015 10:26 pm I have 880 posts. Used to have over 1,000
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