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critter![]() Inner circle Spokane, WA 2551 Posts ![]() |
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On 2012-06-24 16:34, kambiz wrote: As you generally answer questions with "go read something" I figured that it was okay for me to do the same. But you don't usually ask me specific questions, so there's the problem. So "why do I think it sounds awful?" is a whole new question that you didn't ask me before so I can try and answer that one, and would've before if you'd only asked. Well, first off- I'm not saying it is awful, only that it sounds awful. A waiting period of a year before you can get a divorce? Yuck. I mean, we have a waiting period here just because one has to wait for a court date. It's a few months, and I found it to be awful too. For some people, waiting periods, counselling, trial seperations, etc, are a good idea. They might be able to work it out. For others, they know it's over. In their case, it's prolonged agony. Many people know when it's time to move on so why not let them? And, on the extreme end, what about spousal abuse? So it can be good for some people, but as a mandate for everyone- "It sounds awful." PS- I've never bashed any of the Baha'i concepts you've brought up, only the idea of having them forced on me.
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
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critter![]() Inner circle Spokane, WA 2551 Posts ![]() |
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On 2012-06-24 16:41, kambiz wrote: See above.
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
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kambiz![]() Inner circle Perth, down by the cool of the pool 1129 Posts ![]() |
Critter, we're in a forum, no-ones forcing anything on anyone
Kam
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Steve_Mollett![]() Inner circle Eh, so I've made 3010 Posts ![]() |
Off-topic question: Why does Kam's avatar look like an old charwoman who just saw a flasher?
Author of: GARROTE ESCAPES
The absurd is the essential concept and the first truth. - Albert Camus |
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critter![]() Inner circle Spokane, WA 2551 Posts ![]() |
I said the "idea" of having them forced on me. As in the hypothetical Kamtopia that you frequently allude to where everyone must follow Baha'i law. I want a chance to vote on my laws, individually.
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
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Steve_Mollett![]() Inner circle Eh, so I've made 3010 Posts ![]() |
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On 2012-06-24 16:50, critter wrote: Actually, Baha'i law is not 'enforced' in the classic sense; the Baha'i utopia would be something that evolves naturally, rather like Lenin's concept of the "New Soviet Man." In other words, a pipe dream.
Author of: GARROTE ESCAPES
The absurd is the essential concept and the first truth. - Albert Camus |
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kambiz![]() Inner circle Perth, down by the cool of the pool 1129 Posts ![]() |
All Baha'i laws are flexible to allow for "extreme situations"
Kam
If I speak forth, many a mind will shatter,
And if I write, many a pen will break. .....and when I consider my own self, lo, I find it coarser than clay! |
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kambiz![]() Inner circle Perth, down by the cool of the pool 1129 Posts ![]() |
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On 2012-06-24 16:49, Steve_Mollett wrote: Lol.....HEY!!!!! I am a charwoman
If I speak forth, many a mind will shatter,
And if I write, many a pen will break. .....and when I consider my own self, lo, I find it coarser than clay! |
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kambiz![]() Inner circle Perth, down by the cool of the pool 1129 Posts ![]() |
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On 2012-06-24 16:53, Steve_Mollett wrote: After 160 years of existence Steve, the pipe dream is currently a nearing 10million person reality ![]() Kam
If I speak forth, many a mind will shatter,
And if I write, many a pen will break. .....and when I consider my own self, lo, I find it coarser than clay! |
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Steve_Mollett![]() Inner circle Eh, so I've made 3010 Posts ![]() |
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On 2012-06-24 16:56, kambiz wrote: Are there a lot of flashers in Perth?
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The absurd is the essential concept and the first truth. - Albert Camus |
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kambiz![]() Inner circle Perth, down by the cool of the pool 1129 Posts ![]() |
Yes, it's part of the local law here.....a flasher a day keeps the doctor away
Kam
If I speak forth, many a mind will shatter,
And if I write, many a pen will break. .....and when I consider my own self, lo, I find it coarser than clay! |
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Steve_Mollett![]() Inner circle Eh, so I've made 3010 Posts ![]() |
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On 2012-06-24 16:57, kambiz wrote: Woo-Hoo! When it gets to EVERYONE, let me know. Oh wait, if it got there in my lifetime I WOULD know. It wouldn't include ME, though. PIPE DREEEEEAAAAAAM! ![]()
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Steve_Mollett![]() Inner circle Eh, so I've made 3010 Posts ![]() |
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On 2012-06-24 17:00, kambiz wrote: Ah, so doctors in Aussieland are afraid of flashers! Interesting.
Author of: GARROTE ESCAPES
The absurd is the essential concept and the first truth. - Albert Camus |
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kambiz![]() Inner circle Perth, down by the cool of the pool 1129 Posts ![]() |
That sounds like YOUR pipe dream buddy
![]() Kam
If I speak forth, many a mind will shatter,
And if I write, many a pen will break. .....and when I consider my own self, lo, I find it coarser than clay! |
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Steve_Mollett![]() Inner circle Eh, so I've made 3010 Posts ![]() |
No, I don't smoke the dream tar; it's just the absinthe doing its evil work.
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Author of: GARROTE ESCAPES
The absurd is the essential concept and the first truth. - Albert Camus |
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critter![]() Inner circle Spokane, WA 2551 Posts ![]() |
I thought the avatar was a young person recoiling at "bad touch."
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
~Will Rogers |
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acesover![]() Special user I believe I have 819 Posts ![]() |
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On 2012-06-24 10:24, R.S. wrote: You have nailed it. Research, knowledge! The magic words, research and knowledge. There is absoutely nothing wrong with research and what comes from it, that being knowledge. However research which produced knowledge of the Big Bang Theory is at once used to say...There we found it, there is no God there is no Supreme Being it all started with the Big Bang deal. Until you ask yourself what started? Are we sure about the Big BAng Theory? If so Does it eliminate God? The answer to both of these questions is NO. Man is not satisfied with his discoveries which were always there, because God allowed them. He must say now I have found the secret of the universe. I am on equal footing with this so called God who now I know does not exist becasue I found out the truth. We are here because of one big accident. There is no God. I am God, Man is God, Science is God. Besides even if there is God I am as smart as He is now because I know all. I am the smartest thing in the universe and know all the answers. Before man gets carried away with his own self importance let me just say, wrong, wrong, wrong. Believe what you want. If it makes you happy that there is no God or if you believe there is God and you are as all knowing as he is than be happy and believe what you want. If you thnk man and science can find the answers to the creation then fine, believe it. Believe what you want. Let me say this to all you atheists. There is nothng that can convience you that there is a God. Let me further add there is nothing that you can say that will convience me that there is not God. Now are we both closed minded or is it just ones point of view that makes the other closed minded? Believe what you want. Who cares? Certainly not all those who believe in God. They would like you to believe in God, but they don't have a stake in it if you don't. With the exception of a few missionaries that want to just bang their head aganist a wall and try and convience you, most people just don't care what you believe. However I just want to add this. It seems to upset atheists that we believe in God. I don't know why it bothers them. They are like antimissionaries trying to convience you that there is no God. Let it go. So in answering your question I am just saying there is no line to be drawn to research and advancement. But if you think that further researach is going to provide you with answers that proves there is no God you are on a hopless quest.
If I were to agree with you. Then we would both be wrong. As of Apr 5, 2015 10:26 pm I have 880 posts. Used to have over 1,000
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acesover![]() Special user I believe I have 819 Posts ![]() |
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On 2012-06-24 17:18, critter wrote: NO. I could never figure out the Avatar. But the Char Woman, Flasher explanation NAILED IT.
If I were to agree with you. Then we would both be wrong. As of Apr 5, 2015 10:26 pm I have 880 posts. Used to have over 1,000
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R.S.![]() Regular user CT one day I'll have 199 Posts ![]() |
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On 2012-06-24 11:11, TomBoleware wrote: I am not "looking" for a god anymore than you are looking for Pink Flying Unicorns on Jupiter or Leprechauns. Why should I? And according to your book, God IS in the magic trick business (occasionally). "Sure it can all be explained away by simply saying the power of prayer is great, it works because science already proved it" Really? Then why won't God heal amputees? I'm sure many devout Christian amputees (and/or their devout friends and relatives) have prayed for a "miracle" regrowth of their amputated limbs, yet God ignores them. Why? Does prayer only "work" for things that may go into remission or heal themselves over time? And why pray at all, since 1) God already knows our desires, and 2) he has a plan, so who are we to coerce him into changing that plan? Anyway, check this out... http://www.skepdic.com/prayer.html "Despite the fact that there is compelling scientific evidence that healing prayer is ineffective, billions of people turn to prayer at the first sign of distress. Prayer has a comforting effect and it makes people feel empowered in the face of nature's indifference to their suffering. The belief in the healing power of prayer seems to be based on little more than communal reinforcement and selective thinking: people ignore all the times that events don't coincide with their prayerful desires and they call attention to the times that events fall in line with the intentions of their prayers (confirmation bias)." As far as your good fortunes, why don't you credit yourself for your successes? Are you that undisciplined or weak minded that you cannot succeed on your own? And what about all the highly successful atheists out there? Or followers of other religions? Who is helping them? "I could give you story after story, but none involves a cloud of smoke, so therefore they don't count. Huh?" Sorry, but lots of poor quality evidence does not add up to strong evidence. Ron
"It is error only, and not truth, that shrinks from inquiry." Thomas Paine
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R.S.![]() Regular user CT one day I'll have 199 Posts ![]() |
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On 2012-06-24 17:26, acesover wrote: It amazes me that you have participated in all these threads, yet you still post such an innacurate and misleading representation of science, the BB theory, and atheists. Ron
"It is error only, and not truth, that shrinks from inquiry." Thomas Paine
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