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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On 2012-07-03 07:55, Payne wrote: By Bob's definition (those who claim to have no belief one way or the other) we wouldn't all be agnostics, because one doesn't need "knowledge" to have belief. It's the definition of "agnostic" most advanced by atheists that tends to eviscerate the word by encompassing everybody.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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Pakar Ilusi Inner circle 5777 Posts |
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On 2012-07-03 12:40, critter wrote: We're old.
"Dreams aren't a matter of Chance but a matter of Choice." -DC-
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
Payne-
No, by the definitions I am using we would NOT all be agnostics. There would still be plenty of theists around and at least one Deist. There would, however, be a lot more atheists who would have to concede that they were actually strong agnostics. |
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 2653 Posts |
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On 2012-07-03 12:49, Pakar Ilusi wrote: Speak for yourself! My secret is carrot juice, right after the whisky and cigars.
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
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Pakar Ilusi Inner circle 5777 Posts |
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On 2012-07-03 13:21, critter wrote: Mine is the Durian...
"Dreams aren't a matter of Chance but a matter of Choice." -DC-
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S2000magician Inner circle Yorba Linda, CA 3465 Posts |
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On 2012-07-03 08:28, Old Scratch Johnson wrote: Um . . . no. Atheism means a belief that no God(s) exist (alternatively, all God(s) don't exist), not that some particular God(s) don't exist. |
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 2653 Posts |
Speaking of Thor- another secret to long life from my Grandma's side is Lutefisk.
And I think durian would gum up my juicer
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
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Pakar Ilusi Inner circle 5777 Posts |
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On 2012-07-03 15:05, critter wrote: You don't juice Durian, you eat it raw.
"Dreams aren't a matter of Chance but a matter of Choice." -DC-
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 2653 Posts |
I know. I've had it. But I was talking about carrot juice before that
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
~Will Rogers |
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Pakar Ilusi Inner circle 5777 Posts |
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On 2012-07-03 15:26, critter wrote: If the is a Supreme Being, He would love Durian.
"Dreams aren't a matter of Chance but a matter of Choice." -DC-
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Jeff J. Special user Connecticut 787 Posts |
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On 2012-07-03 15:03, S2000magician wrote: You are picking and choosing your definition. |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
Aren't we all?
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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Jeff J. Special user Connecticut 787 Posts |
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On 2012-07-03 16:18, LobowolfXXX wrote: I have to agree. |
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R.S. Regular user CT one day I'll have 188 Posts |
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On 2012-07-03 16:33, Old Scratch Johnson wrote: I don't agree. I am an A-agreeist. Ron :)
"It is error only, and not truth, that shrinks from inquiry." Thomas Paine
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27300 Posts |
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On 2012-06-10 00:05, acesover wrote: You put yourself in a box there. Just one "creator/god" ? No oversight, comittees? How about many, many "gods" operating? And more to my point, how could one distinguish any of these cases from any other case involving some, one, none at some given moment?
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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Pakar Ilusi Inner circle 5777 Posts |
Supreme Being?
Aliens... I prefer Ancient Aliens myself.
"Dreams aren't a matter of Chance but a matter of Choice." -DC-
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S2000magician Inner circle Yorba Linda, CA 3465 Posts |
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On 2012-07-03 06:29, R.S. wrote: I took the definition from Merriam-Webster online. I'm with Bob: what you call weak atheism sounds like agnosticism to me, and what you call strong atheism sounds like atheism to me. If you choose to use a different definition of the terms, that's fine. Frankly, I think that it's silly to argue over the definition: let's just pick one and use it, then we can get to the real debate: whether people who claim that there is no God have the same burden of proof as people who clame that there is. They do. |
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Pakar Ilusi Inner circle 5777 Posts |
There is no God. (Which one you want? Jesus, Allah, Shiva, Xenu... )
He/She/They is/are not here. Proof He is.
"Dreams aren't a matter of Chance but a matter of Choice." -DC-
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On 2012-07-02 20:20, Old Scratch Johnson wrote: Quote:
On 2012-07-03 21:03, Pakar Ilusi wrote: Quod erat demonstrandum
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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S2000magician Inner circle Yorba Linda, CA 3465 Posts |
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On 2012-07-03 21:13, LobowolfXXX wrote: I love it when you talk French. |
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