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On 2012-06-23 13:21, stoneunhinged wrote:...
And having thought about these things, I thought: why don't our politicians start thinking about these things?...
Whaddya all think?


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One guy in florida was high on bath salts and started eating a homeless mans face off whilst he was still alive. People were telling him to stop* and he would growl at them. He was killed by police (who else are liscensed to kill, dodo)

*why is it than whenever things like this happen people are always too afraid to do any thing. Or they just wont do anything just cause. They could've overpowered him, he had no weapon. I guess that whole flight or fight thing is selective.
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On 2012-12-30 10:16, foreva.infiniti wrote:
One guy in florida was high on bath salts and started eating a homeless mans face off whilst he was still alive. People were telling him to stop* and he would growl at them. He was killed by police (who else are liscensed to kill, dodo)

*why is it than whenever things like this happen people are always too afraid to do any thing. Or they just wont do anything just cause. They could've overpowered him, he had no weapon. I guess that whole flight or fight thing is selective.


Balducci addressed that claim on Dec 28, 2012 5:31pm.

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Apparently bath salts may have gotten a bad rap. No bath salts were found in the system of that Miami cannibal attacker:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/crime/2012/12......azy.html

(The material below is from a feature article in another publication ... You can find the link to it in the article above.)

A month after the gruesome attack on the MacArthur Causeway, the Miami-Dade County medical examiner released the final toxicology report. A second laboratory independently confirmed the results.

No bath salts were found in Eugene’s system.

“Within the limits of current technology by both laboratories,” the medical examiner’s office said in a statement, “marijuana is the only drug identified in the body of Mr. Rudy Eugene.”
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Oh sorry. I couldn't read it all becuse Im on my phone :s
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Questions are emerging about the breakdown of the federal government’s science integrity process in the wake of the Food & Drug Administration’s long-delayed release of its approval of the first genetically modified animal for human consumption.

The AquAdvantage salmon developed by AquaBounty Technologies of Massachusetts—an Atlantic salmon modified with a growth hormone gene from Chinook salmon so it grows to maturity faster—had been winding its way through the federal approval process for 17 years. Two years ago, the FDA had said it was going to release its environmental assessment, the final document in the approval process, within weeks. It was finally and quietly posted on the FDA’s website only last Friday—just hours before the long holiday weekend—and published in the Federal Register on Wednesday.

The release came, FDA sources say, in response to the publication of an investigation in Slate by the Genetic Literacy Project two days before, on December 19. The GLP, which I head, had reported that the FDA had definitively concluded last spring that the fish would have “no significant impact” on the environment and was “as safe as food from conventional Atlantic salmon.” However, the draft assessment, dated April 19, 2012, was not released—blocked on orders from the White House.

The seven month delay, sources within the government say, came after discussions late last spring between Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sibelius’ office and officials linked to Valerie Jarrett at the Executive Office, who were debating the political implications of approving the GM salmon. Genetically modified plants and animals are controversial among the president’s political base, which was thought critical to his reelection efforts during a low point in the president’s popularity.

The GLP posted a version of the suppressed preliminary approval document on its website, leaked by government staffers upset about the politicization of the process and the White House’s interference.

The hurried release of the Environmental Assessment last Friday capped a frenzied two days behind the scenes at the White House and FDA. Within hours after the Slate article and leaked document were posted, an administration official notified the FDA that the administration was dropping its indefinite hold. “The White House had no place to hide,” said a government source. The “final” draft environmental assessment is identical to the document leaked to the GLP, but is dated May 4—two weeks later.
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On 2012-12-29 21:23, acesover wrote:
Just search on medical marijuana. Many doctors prescribe it, for a variety of legitimate medical reasons. Or see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_cannabis


Well here its pretty easy to get prescribed to easy. Its all about money. Its at the point where detroit has decriminalized rec. Use of weed (up to one ounce) and here where Im at it hasnt been legalized but a bill was passed (74% majority) that forces the police to make weed their lowest priority. So jay walking is a higher priority. The wording in the bill is key because of state and federal laws. Weed is still illegal by state law. The ypsi police say they will respect the bill whilst the detroit pd says their treatment towards weed will not change because its still state law. Things are about to get ugly. I wonder what my man dynamike was thinkin when all this transpired.
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Marijuana seems to be the only drug that can be prescribed with no indication of dosage, quantity on the script. The prescription is filled with a product that has no regulation as to its quality.

Maybe I'm wrong. Can anyone think of another prescription for some quantity of a drug of unknown dosage?
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On 2012-12-30 10:55, Magnus Eisengrim wrote:
Marijuana seems to be the only drug that can be prescribed with no indication of dosage, quantity on the script. The prescription is filled with a product that has no regulation as to its quality.

Maybe I'm wrong. Can anyone think of another prescription for some quantity of a drug of unknown dosage?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro_re_nata
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On 2012-12-30 10:55, Magnus Eisengrim wrote:
Marijuana seems to be the only drug that can be prescribed with no indication of dosage, quantity on the script. The prescription is filled with a product that has no regulation as to its quality.

Maybe I'm wrong. Can anyone think of another prescription for some quantity of a drug of unknown dosage?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro_re_nata



"As needed"--sure. But "in whatever dosage it happens to arrive in"?
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Hi Magnus.

I think you're right about prescriptions in general. The usual prescriptions specifies "what" - the drug - "how much" - the dose - "when" - the dosing interval and the timing - "how" - the route of administration - and the duration of treatment - the amount of drug to be dispensed. A prescription that omitted any one of those elements would require some communication (e.g. a telephone call) between the pharmacy and the physician before it could be filled.
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On 2012-12-29 22:20, balducci wrote:
...on medical marijuana. Many doctors prescribe it, for a variety of legitimate medical reasons.


Correct. I have a precription. It's to treat my Glaucoma. I think it's wonderful that states are defying federal laws. This country is still in the dark ages. People want to get high? I know of no better substance. My own doctor said it is the safest therapeutical substance known to man. The governemt maintains its ignorance, and continues to prohibit it. Screw 'em!

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On 2012-12-29 22:20, balducci wrote:
...on medical marijuana. Many doctors prescribe it, for a variety of legitimate medical reasons.


Correct. I have a precription. It's to treat my Glaucoma. I think it's wonderful that states are defying federal laws. This country is still in the dark ages. People want to get high? I know of no better substance. My own doctor said it is the safest therapeutical substance known to man. The governemt maintains its ignorance, and continues to prohibit it. Screw 'em!

Doug

Okay, so please educate us. How does the prescription read? Does it say anything about dosages and potency etc.? Is the strength / THC content of the pot standardized?
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Legalize them all, the heard needs to be culled.


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Okay, so please educate us. How does the prescription read? Does it say anything about dosages and potency etc.?

It pretty much says "use as needed". I don't smoke during the day. I have to function lucidly. So, there is the tincture (five drops under the tongue), and the edibles. I have to take a "dose" every three hours. The tincture has no psychoactive properties. Five drops is one dose.

In the evening, I smoke the fine buds the growers deliver me. Right now, Cannatonic is the strain I like. I also have Dr. Grinspoon and Fruit Basket in my medicine cabinet. I also have something called Bubble Hash. I only use that when I can't get to sleep. It's a guaranteed sleep aid.

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Is the strength / THC content of the pot standardized?

No, I wouldn't say it is. This is still a new industry. The problem is, this ignorant, narrow-minded government still thinks there is no medical value in this! I tell ya, the Pharma industry and a few other greedy, money grubbers are doing their best to bury this.

I just don't want to go blind. I don't do chemical drugs! Marijuana works. It doesn't poison my system, and, in some ways, it's GOOD for me! And, ya know...the stigma it has makes it difficult. My family is dead-set against it. I am an outcast because of it. I've smoked it since 1970. I've never had a problem with it, per se.

Before I came to Maine, I had quit it for two years. It became an expense I could not afford. I had no withdrawal symptoms! None! I'd been a regular smoker for more than ten years straight, and BAM, just stopped. Try that with alcohol, cigarettes, or any other such addicition. Ha! I tell ya, cigarettes are the worst. That was THE hardest thing I EVER had to quit!

I'm glad we can have this discussion. I rarely talk about it. But ya know, really I don't care what my family thinks. They are just "outside my zone". There will always be people against it. But, I am glad folks are smart enough to at least be educated about it. That is a step forward...

Doug
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Are they just seen and NOT heard? Or did he mean some unidentified herd? Haha

Glen

P.S. I wonder if the unemployed numbers would rise if marijuana became legalized?
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Dougini, thanks for the details about how the prescription works. Happy New Year. Smile
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On 2013-01-01 14:18, GlenD wrote:
...I wonder if the unemployed numbers would rise if marijuana became legalized?


If these companies stupidly put it in a drug test, and a positive result is a fail. They still think it is a bad thing, like cocaine, heroin, or Ecstacy! They lump it all together! Again, education is in order. I mean quickly!

I know fellow veterans here with PTSD, and I mean BAD...and cannabis is a CURE. It's been proven...I have seen it myself. I am glad we are moving forward with this.

If you are interested in what it can do for you, and you are sick & tired of poisonous prescription medication, you can educate yourself better by reading the free past issues of "Treating Yourself" magazine:

http://www.treatingyourself.com/published-issues.php

There are some medical articles you may want to read. My situation is Glaucoma, and it works wonders. If you're on pain killers, and your appetite is gone, and you don't want to eat, this can help. It also kills certain forms of cancer...

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On 2013-01-01 15:05, balducci wrote:
Dougini, thanks for the details about how the prescription works. Happy New Year. Smile


My pleasure, my friend! Smile

Doug
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Thanks Dougini. Does anyone know why or how marijuana eases glaucoma symptoms? Surely there must be a way to isolate, extract and accurately dose the relevant chemical(s).

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On 2013-01-02 12:34, Magnus Eisengrim wrote:
Surely there must be a way to isolate, extract and accurately dose the relevant chemical(s).

Not when you're stoned.

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Can we get DNA in choice of colors and flavor too?

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