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JanForster Inner circle Germany ... when not traveling... 4192 Posts 
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Your assumption is right, reset is minimal. Jan
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bob44leo New user 24 Posts
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Concerning Grail versus X-Act workability, there is an issue of professional magician versus amateur. If I was a professional doing magic daily or weekly the "move" required with the Grail is attainable. If I'm a amateur I might be able to master the "move" but if I didn't do the trick for a month I'd be very concerned of my ability to perform it flawlessly. Not so with X-Act. It's super clean and reliable. I love it and based on the effort and materials put into making it, it's a bargain.
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Robert M Inner circle 2482 Posts
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Just for the record, I definitely see Platt's point on this. To the audience, the tricks look the same - almost. And, there's a lot to be said for doing this without a fully gaffed deck.
But, personally I prefer to do this without any suspicious moves - no matter how minimal they may be. Peter Nardi handles it extremely well. Here's the demo again showing the possible outcomes. The "move" occurs at the 3:00 mark. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiRA9r0gSvI&feature=youtu.be For me, it's worth using a gaffed deck (and what a gaffed deck it is!) to accomplish this effect in a totally clean and consistent manner. After all, isn't that what ACAAN and CAAN effects are supposed to be all about? X-Act duplicates the CAAN effect without any suspicious moves. That's why I think it's so great. Robert |
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Tom G Inner circle 2895 Posts
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[quote]On 2012-12-10 09:37, Robert M wrote:
For me, it's worth using a gaffed deck (and what a gaffed deck it is!) to accomplish this effect in a totally clean and consistent manner. After all, isn't that what ACAAN and CAAN effects are supposed to be all about? I agree with Robert, if I have a gimmicked deck, I'll have it do as much as possible. XA has quite a bit more gaffing in it than the Grail. But I'll take a little bit more ease in accomplishing it. Any ACAAN or CAAN is a trade off of what someone is willing to give up. For me I'm happier with X-Act, but someone who wants a little cleaner deck will like the Grail. If you buy either and don't like it, you can probably sell it on the Café. |
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Gaz Lawrence Inner circle 5991 Posts
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On 2012-12-10 09:37, Robert M wrote: Peter does handle it well on a shoot as many times as you like youtube demo . Seen in person live it wasn't smooth at all .Not saying he can't do it but if the dealer struggles it can be a worry . |
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BatsMagic Inner circle New York 1052 Posts
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Right, nanaswan. I own The Grail, and sometimes the move would go well, and other times it would not. So I shelved it. Maybe now I'll open it up again and try it out, but now that I have X-act I don't see a reason why. Some people may have a better knack to do the move than I do. And don't get me wrong- the move is not difficult, but in my case I could not always get the correct outcome.
With X-act, the move is done before anyone would even suspect a move to be made. It would have been done sometime before the 3:00 mark in The Grail video. It's that clean and simple. And it is virtually foolproof, although I say that with caution. |
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sabitu Special user USA 533 Posts
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Matt Mello has a very similar effect on his Modern Mentalism DVD that uses no gimmicks. In fact I highly doubt a spectator would notice a difference between Matt's effect and X-act.
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Silver Glove Magic Veteran user Magic... coast to coast, here's to another... 334 Posts
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On 2012-12-10 19:32, sabitu wrote: I saw a similar post like this in another X-act thread. If the Matt Mello version is as clean, or cleaner than X-Act or Grail, then Matt's version might very well be the true 'Grail' of CAAN effects? I will have to see to give my final verdict. Can anyone who has this weigh in here? Thanks for sharing, definitely sparked my interest in this DVD you speak of. 
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paperinick Inner circle my faro is starting to look nice after 1177 Posts
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On 2012-12-11 18:49, Silver Glove Magic wrote: so long for "very similar": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLsvKEqSQtE It's more similar to Insane, Subzero and others.
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sabitu Special user USA 533 Posts
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On 2012-12-11 18:57, paperinick wrote: Yes the methods are completely different. I was referring to both effects being similar (if not the same) from the spectator's point of view. P.S. Sorry to go off topic, but to see a better performance of Matt's effect take a look at Craig Petty performing it at the 11 minute mark. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFRSYeBxLYA |
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Silver Glove Magic Veteran user Magic... coast to coast, here's to another... 334 Posts
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Let me just say, I dig the fact Mark uses old box covers from previous effects. I opened my copy of XA and I could see the box was an old "Solo" cover before. Way to be eco friendly Mark!
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paperinick Inner circle my faro is starting to look nice after 1177 Posts
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I don't think he is reusing old covers: he has just them print them both sides with different tricks, so depending the way they are wrapped they can box different tricks.
I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death my right to say "scr*w you" if you persist. [Voltaire
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Silver Glove Magic Veteran user Magic... coast to coast, here's to another... 334 Posts
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On 2012-12-11 19:55, paperinick wrote: Either way, its still smart and eco friendly. Plus I'm sure it saves on a little cash.
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EricHenning Loyal user Laurel, Maryland 218 Posts
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Here is my review: http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......start=60
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westo Special user 585 Posts
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Perfect for me, does Wat I need it to do, got it in 5 days from the US . Happy customer.
Creator of 'The Famous Westo Peek'..'The Westo Dump' and the 'Westolope'
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magicHart Special user Las Vegas, Nevada 548 Posts
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Question for Mark,
Any plans to offer replacements for those that loose their buttons(lol) Or need to replace the box? |
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drphil Elite user 449 Posts
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I will second magicHart's question. Box and button refills would be nice.
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greig ewen Elite user 473 Posts
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Great premise. Love the CAAN plot. The only downside if there is one is that you have to carry that deck with you. Apart from that X-Act is a perfect solution to the CAAN. Very clever,incredibly devious & a down right killer. G.Ewen
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BaryBazz Loyal user United Kingdom 213 Posts
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I have tried many of these types of effects and have to say that this one in my opinion is near the top of the tree. I also like insane which is a great effect but this seems cleaner and a little bit smoother in performance.
Highly recommended . Barry |
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