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Very nice, thanks for the link J.Prager

and the original also of course Smile
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Wow, I was coming here to post the link but once again I was beaten to it!!! A great job by David IMHO.
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I like the part were Oprah says, "I'm nervous." Now THAT'S creating a moment!
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Magician does mentalism? Whatever next? Smile
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On 2012-07-16 17:45, Shrubsole wrote:
Magician does mentalism? Whatever next? Smile




Good point and notice the common statement/question ask of magicians by Oprah, "How did you do that?"




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On 2012-07-16 17:45, Shrubsole wrote:
Magician does mentalism? Whatever next? Smile


Mentalist uses playing cards! Smile

At least it was well done. I seen a well known magican "murder" the MOABT on national TV, a while back.

Seems to me that there is a "free for all" when it comes to Book tests.
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On 2012-07-16 17:45, Shrubsole wrote:
Magician does mentalism? Whatever next? Smile




Good point and notice the common statement/question ask of magicians by Oprah, "How did you do that?"

I was waiting for, " very well"!




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On 2012-07-16 17:45, Shrubsole wrote:
Magician does mentalism? Whatever next? Smile

Right on, man! David Copperfield, David Blaine, Criss Angel, Cyril, Keith Barry, etc. have no business ever performing the almighty art of mentalism! All those stupid magicians are always screwing things up, aren't they? I wish some of the brilliant performers here on the Café could have set David Copperfield straight before he went on Oprah's television show shot on Musha Cay. He clearly has no clue what he's doing. He really needs one of the real performers from here on the Café to tell him magic and mentalism don't go together at all! They don't relate in any way! It's totally impossible to successfully combine them. What was David Copperfield thinking?
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Why the angry hostility exitmat? The "almighty art of mentalism?" Really?

Magicians have included mental effects in their acts throughout the history of magic. Some do them very well, some don't. Copperfield does them well.

The argument that I have always made is about the wisdom of mentalists doing magic in their shows, not the other way around. (BTW, I AM a "real" performer. Also note that Keith Barry, for whom I've worked as a consultant, is now a mentalist and no longer bills himself as a magician.)
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Exitmat,

We are having fun, buddy. Chill.

Most of the time when a magician does mentalism, it is metal magic with no jazz! I like to jazz......

David did very well with the book test but found it funny that the woman made that comment! LOL



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He did it very well.

When you stop to think about it, Copperfield does nearly everything well.

Thank you for sharing that link, Jamie. I really enjoyed it.

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Copperfield is the magician of the century!
I think nobody will say the opposite!
This man is THE magician, now his book test presentation was rather flat.
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On 2012-07-17 04:42, parmenion wrote:
Copperfield is the magician of the century!
I think nobody will say the opposite!
This man is THE magician, now his book test presentation was rather flat.


Agreed. Copperfield is amazing... no argument here... but, I felt the performance was lack luster.. as if he were just 'going though the motions'.

His reveal was also a little trite... IMO.

Maybe some dramatic, emotive music...( while he is talking about his mother) but stopped sharp the second he reveals the word.... only to continue, and swell to a victorious crescendo, would have done the trick!!?? Smile
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On 2012-07-17 04:42, parmenion wrote:
Copperfield is the magician of the century!
I think nobody will say the opposite!
This man is THE magician, now his book test presentation was rather flat.

Agreed but we have to see that from a mental magic standpoint he wasn't too bad except in the "numbers range" choice, he should have covered that in his script as he narrowed the choices without any kind of justification (Just a simple: "Ok so that book might have around 20 lines per page, correct? Choose any number between that..." ) so that subconsciously it would make more sense the restriction. In his performance he just threw numbers out and the spectator has to related that and understand why it can't be between 1 and 100.

Like parmenion said the presentation was flat, there was no emotional hook or any angle to make anyone related to that demonstration (not even to the power being demonstrated) but despite performing a book test, he wasn't performing mentalism so I guess it was ok.

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Not a direct put down, but many say that DC's magic show is not what it used to be and often use the words 'Just going through the motions'. He was a bit that way when I saw him in 2002 in Brussels. And no new TV specials since before that even.

Fortunately I got to see him before that when he really was out of this world.

Still it must be very tiring being on top all the time when you are getting older. He will certainly be remembered as one of the greatest of all time.
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David is not one of the greatest of all time, he IS THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME! The facts support that. For those that watched the interview, Oprah commented about all of his accolades and his reply was basically how quickly people forget. This is so true! I love mentalism but I still don't understand the elitist attitudes mentalists have.

I thought is presentation was VERY GOOD! It may not have been great but under the circumstances with time and television, I thought it was done well. Exitmat, I hope you were being sarcastic but you probably were not. Take a poll of the general public about magic and mentalism and I am willing to bet the general public does not know what mentalism is or would they know any mentalists by name. Well, Derren Brown will be the exception in his country and maybe the crime television show here in the US but that has now dropped in ratings and has moved to Sunday nights!

In television, there is no time for the "extra" performance bits as people will change the channel if you are not doing something interesting. Live performances is very different from television performances. If you attended or watched the Essential Magic Conference, you would have seen Luis DeMatos go into great detail about performing magic on television. At this point some of you are thinking, wait a minute that is magic not mentalism, but I will say mentalism is a form of magic just like country and western is a type of music.

Just my two cents!
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Well I guess that settles that! Smile
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Bob,

I am so glad I was not drinking anything when I read your comment as my screen would be all wet! I could actually hear your voice in your comment. Thanks for making my day and I hope to see you in November!
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