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BatsMagic Inner circle New York 1052 Posts |
But even the card box (which is an integral part of the effect) should last a while since it will not be something that is constantly used and abused.
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EricHenning Loyal user Laurel, Maryland 218 Posts |
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On 2013-01-14 14:26, paperinick wrote: Papernick, I can't see how a Himber Wallet would do anything but detract from the clean, simple effect of X-Act. As it stands, the audience is left with NOTHING to hang their hat on. Having said that, I am planning to experiment with a P***t envelope in order to use regular f***e cards. But that may just be gilding the lily. The trick works so well now that if the envelope gives me any pause at all, I will probably go back to the original handling. Here's a tip: Eugene Burger's "Exploring Presentations" DVD has a handling and presentational ideas for a similar effect and also some great tips on working with envelopes. Cheers, Eric As seen at the White House and now three Presidential Inaugurals! http://www.HenningMagic.com |
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Robert M Inner circle 2482 Posts |
I tried using the Piatt envelope and decided against it. I'd rather let the prediction card slide out of the envelope and then be able to show the envelope empty.
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drphil Elite user 444 Posts |
I.m.o. This effect needs no tweeking it's perfect the way it is. I Just let the card slide out of the coin envelope and then show it empty. Let that sink in then slowly put it all away and move on to something else.
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Paul Hughes Regular user UK 123 Posts |
I concur; I tried X-Act with Jerry o'Connell's beautiful mini-himber wallet to be a little more clean with the reveal, but I've gone back to the envelope method as it looks cleaner even though you can't hand out the prediction (but then why would you).
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runawayjag Inner circle 1085 Posts |
I personally love this trick, but I do have an issue that seems to be more and more common lately. I have owned FIVE of these. The first one, I loved, and a friend talked me out of it, so I wasn't concerned because I figured it would be easy to replace. The second one I received was made WRONG! I don't want to tip any of the method so I'll just say the gaffs did everything incorrectly. There was no mistake about this. Okay, so the third came, a free replacement from the dealer who sent me the bad one. It worked perfectly and it is now my working unit. I decided to buy a backup (now, on the fourth one.) Unbelievably, it did not work! The issue was different from the second one, but it still made the gaff do the wrong thing. And, finally, I bought a fifth one, now my backup, which works perfectly.
The issue is that quality control today seems to be a thing of little importance to makers and/or sellers. Two bad units out of five is really a very poor percentage. But, I do love this trick and can't imagine anyone being unhappy with a properly working unit. |
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Robert M Inner circle 2482 Posts |
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On 2013-01-26 11:24, Paul Hughes wrote: Just wanted to clarify... you can let the prediction card slide out of the envelope and then show it empty if you're using a Piatt envelope. But, personally I have no problem whatsoever letting the card slide out onto the table, showing the regular envelope empty (without hiding anything) and tossing it onto the table, and then turning over the spectator's card. I can't imagine a lay person wanting to look at the prediction card at this point. But, for the record, a Piatt envelope will certainly work. And, I agree with Eric... using a small Himber wallet is not a good idea. Robert PS - Sorry you got a couple bad ones, John! I better check my back-up! |
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jerdunn Inner circle 1735 Posts |
If you were to put two regular cards in an envelope with a Kismet-type separator, you could 1) let the card slide out of the envelope, 2) show the envelope empty, and 3) let the spectator pick up the card.
Just a thought. I love standard Kismet Envelopes for three-way predictions, but a single separator also works great for two-way outs. Cheers, Jerry |
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emyers99 Inner circle Columbus, Ohio 4741 Posts |
Saw Mark this past weekend at the Magi-Fest and picked one of these up (along with another new goodie he has coming out) after Mark showed it to me. First, Mark is the best demoer in the business and an all around class guy. Shows you how everything works before you buy. After seeing how this worked, I knew I would probably never use it in a professional gig but it was so darn clever I picked it up just to play with it. First rate package and priced amazingly low given the amount of work that had to go into putting it together. I don't see any reason to use a gimmicked envelope or himber wallet because I don't see anyone wanting to pick up the card.
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Gord New user 59 Posts |
I just watched the demo, looks killer.
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electricmagic New user New Lenox, Illinois 4 Posts |
What are everyone's opinion on what is stronger ... Should the card from the envelope be revealed first, or the spectators card revealed first?
It seems like the envelope should be dumped first since the magician knows "how" to do it, then the spectator turns HIS selected card over (attention away from the envelope card).
Todd
The three rules of Engineering: 1. Always use the right tool for the job. 2. A hammer is the right tool for any job. 3. Anything can be used as a hammer. |
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drphil Elite user 444 Posts |
I like the idea of I slide out the prediction card first. As I show the card I tell them I'm committed theirs no turning back now, Go ahead and turn you're card over. Then as I slide their card back in the envelope I say the odds were'nt in my favor crazy don't you think. Now lets try something else. I put the envelope away and continue.
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DelMagic Special user 719 Posts |
Dump the card out of the envelope first, then turn over their card. I think it takes the heat off the prediction - it has already been seen. The final focus is on their card which is where you want it.
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electricmagic New user New Lenox, Illinois 4 Posts |
Thanks DelMagic and drphil. That is the way I'll go with it. I wonder why they did not show it this way on the DVD...
Todd
The three rules of Engineering: 1. Always use the right tool for the job. 2. A hammer is the right tool for any job. 3. Anything can be used as a hammer. |
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Mike Kirby New user 100 Posts |
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On 2013-02-27 11:39, DelMagic wrote: That is so true. Awesome! |
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drphil Elite user 444 Posts |
The mechanics that are built into this effect allow for the cleanest CAAN I have ever seen. So far no one has a clue how I can predict their card. The heat is never on the prediction card. Because they see it first and then it is put away. Mike Kirby and Mark Mason have created a real beauty.
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electricmagic New user New Lenox, Illinois 4 Posts |
Yes X-act is a very cleaver effect. I'll be using X-act in a routine next to another card prediction trick I purchased recently. It's called "PhotoPrediction" by Guilherme Del Frate. The effect is where you ask the spectator to freely pick any card from a deck (face up, no force). He picks a "4 of clubs." You explain that you knew he would pick the "4 of clubs" because of a strange feeling you had the day before, just like a premonition of this very moment. Immediately you get your iPhone, unlock it, and show that the last picture taken with your device is you holding the 4 of clubs! You can have the spectator open the photos folder and look at the last picture. Best of all you can do this trick at any time and it ends clean. I just have to think of a good patter to make it flow together well with X-act. These two tricks together will blow peoples minds!
Todd
The three rules of Engineering: 1. Always use the right tool for the job. 2. A hammer is the right tool for any job. 3. Anything can be used as a hammer. |
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drphil Elite user 444 Posts |
Try this. Open with X-act then after the reveal. Tell them that this was a prediction with any number from 1-52 now I will show you a prediction I have and you can pick any card. And as you say this spread the cards and let them name any card. You have a quick one two punch. And after the photo reveal they will have seen two impossible predictions with no way to backtrack or see any moves. I find by combining effects less patter is needed. And the two effects will work perfectly together. I.m.o.
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videoman Inner circle 6732 Posts |
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On 2013-02-28 23:45, electricmagic wrote: Where can one purchase this Photo Prediction effect? Can't find any info about it. Thanks, Bill |
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Gianni Special user WILMINGTON, DE 993 Posts |
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On 2013-02-27 20:18, electricmagic wrote: I think there is a very good reason why they did not show it this way on the DVD. If you show the prediction first, there is a chance you will be wrong if you did not keep all the cards straight in your mind. By showing the prediction after the selection is revealed, you have no real chance of showing the wrong prediction, unless you should be in a different hobby. So it is a trade-off: stronger reveal versus less chance of getting it wrong. Gianni |
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