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Richard Kaufman
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You're a magician, so telling me that you figured out isn't the correct analogy.

You'd have to present "Wonder Window" really poorly in order for someone to figure it out.
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You'd have to present "Wonder Window" really poorly in order for someone to figure it out.


Well then, I guess in your opinion, Magic Patagonia/Cormatches doesn't know s**t about presenting and recording Tenyo magic.
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On 2013-01-06 18:07, Richard Kaufman wrote:
There are so many good forces that don't require a sleight, it's hard to imagine why one would need to resort to a gimmicked deck of any kind. The Henry Christ Cut Deeper Force or Max Holden Cross-Cut Force, and even the Hindu Shuffle Force, always work on laymen.


I mentioned the Svengali Deck because you get the extra card to cut up for the Mini Zag so you do not ruin an entire deck for one card.

I am not good at figuring out tricks at all but sometimes I do get it right away. Wonder Window was one I got right away.

I think for each trick you have to consider your audience.

For Christmas I carried my Tenyo case which has 70 Tenyo that I can confidently perform. I wound up with an anxious audience of a 8 year old and a 4 year old. So I looked at my case a pulled out Crash Dice. I was merely using it as a container to hold all the dice for the various tricks in the case. Well that was a big hit, they loved it. But it is not something that I would do for an older audience.

You can find the right audience for Wonder Window but it should not contain someone whose sole purpose is to figure out everything you are doing because they will get it right. The problem is there are not a lot of ways to consider how it is done so their first guess will most likely be correct.

Just my experiences and opinion.
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Cyberdave: Magic is a performing art meant to be performed and seen live, not on videos on the internet. Have you performed "Wonder Window" for people? I have. No one twigs to the method.

Rather than showing videos to laymen and asking what they think, I would suggest that it's much better to perform the trick yourself.
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Magic is a performing art meant to be performed and seen live, not on videos on the internet.


That's a steaming pile, if I've ever seen one. I have a number of Tenyo tricks that MP has done on video (in fact, I acquired some because of his videos). Except for the beginning of 'Tunnel of Darkness', the way they look live when I present them is exactly the way they look on his videos. Your blame is misplaced.

No one twigs to the method? How do you know? Did you ask everyone you performed this for? As above, when I showed the demo to different people, no one said a thing about the method until I specifically asked, when the majority then revealed they had figured it out.
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Hey guys my fave all time ZIG ZAG trick is Twister/pencillia <after sidetrack> of course, can anybody tell me why it is sometimes referred to as pencilia? as ive never ever seen that name on the packaging or anything? anyone know?? THANKS M M
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I can tell from the reactions of people I perform for if they're fooled. I've been doing magic for over over 4 decades, so my radar is pretty good. (You can insert your "old fart" comment here.)

Just the other day, when Wizard of Oz and I got together at the Magi-Fest, he had never seen a Side Track and I did it for him. I think he was pretty impressed, but he can give his opinion.
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I was impressed indeed. I didn't want to know the secret, and you didn't tell me. I like to try and figure these things out. Still haven't...but I don't give up easily.

I believe I laid awake for a couple of nights trying to figure out Prison Box. Angelo owes me some sleep for that one. As a matter of fact, Crystal Cleaver kept me awake as well...damn. I think I have a Tenyo law suit I should be planning. Loss of sleep due to diabolical methodology...that has to be illegal, right?
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.
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The only unfortunate thing about Side Track is that it can't be examined, but the illusion is so strong when you remove the jumbo card, that it's the only thing they want to see. The case doesn't seem to attract any attention after the effect.
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We always used the Jumbo Sidetrack case ostensively to hold the jumbo card for performing the first part of Don Alan's Big Deal.

Then, almost as an afterthought, performed the zig-zag effect.

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My favorite zig-zag is Tri-sector. What's great is that you can do it with different bills and aren't stuck with a $1.
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On 2013-02-15 20:28, WalterPlinge wrote:
My favorite zig-zag is Tri-sector. What's great is that you can do it with different bills and aren't stuck with a $1.

I think Tri-Sector could qualify as one of the most elaborate/intricate apparatus made by Tenyo...
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